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 Post subject: Re: Friction Bearing Re-Babbit or replacement
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:05 am 

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FredNystrom wrote:
And in passing, don't think that roller bearings are pure rollers, either, because many types of rolling-contact bearings have plenty of sliding friction, tapered rollers being one of the worst offenders. IMHO, what seals the deal for roller axle bearings on rail vehicles is that they have a secure environment maintained by effective and reliable seals; and because they are cartridge assemblies, the environment stays secure (usually) until they're swapped out. (In addition, the much smaller static friction, compared to plain bearings, saves lots of fuel.) In stark contrast is the plain axle box with a non-secure hinged lid and a simple, ill-fitting rear seal that often wears out and is difficult to replace. As a result, this very dirty environment is the cause of most failures, in my opinion.


Interesting. A couple of questions:
1.) Could you expand a little on why tapered roller bearings have a lot of sliding friction?
2.) Was grit entering through the rear seal a major cause of hot boxes?

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 Post subject: Re: Friction Bearing Re-Babbit or replacement
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:53 am 

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I always thought "solid bearing" was the better descriptive term.


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 Post subject: Re: Friction Bearing Re-Babbit or replacement
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:53 am 

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I agree with Dave & David. You'll want to closely examine the journal for any kind of damage and address it or you may still be in the same pickle with a new brass/Babbitt.

On the bearing term controversy, we just call them brass bearings as opposed to rollers. Nobody misunderstands. I've gotten more quizzical looks using "plain" bearing.

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