First of all, I found out there is a webcam for the S.S. Norway. It is at http://kroooz-cams.com/norway/norway.htm; link is also below. It seems to work best with Internet Explorer.

As you will see, she is now under tow to a shipyard in Poland. As everyone knows, the shipyard scattered asbestos all about the ship; leaving it in a shape where no U.S. or German shipyard will touch it. This shipyard is the same shipyard that overhauled the Norway following it's sale to Norwegian Cruise Lines.

Latest news is that her steam plant will not be repaired, but converted to diesel.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

S.S. Norway Webcam
james1@pernet.net

> Latest news is that her steam plant will not
> be repaired, but converted to diesel.

> -James Hefner
> Hebrews 10:20a

Well, as fqr as I'm concerned, if that is what happens in the end, then that's the end of the good ol' Norway. Viva la France!
Mark D.

> Well, as fqr as I'm concerned, if that is
> what happens in the end, then that's the end
> of the good ol' Norway. Viva la France!
> Mark D.

Whole different scale but we still have this little sweety ... with two compound steam engines, and some beautiful scenery! Living history at its finest.



http://www.segwun.com/
lamontdc@adelphia.net

> Whole different scale but we still have this
> little sweety ... with two compound steam
> engines, and some beautiful scenery! Living
> history at its finest.

Nice! Looks a whole lot like the old passenger boats that plied the great lakes in the 1920s and earlier.
Kind of like a small scale version of the "AMERICA" which today lies on the bottom at Washington Harbor, Isle Royale, Lake Superior. Can be partly seen from the surface, and diveable. What's the specs. on the little beauty in the picture, and where does it operate normally?
Thanks, Mark D.

She is part of the remaining fleet cruising the Muskoka Lakes, about 100 miles North of Toronto.
Built in 1887 and restored in 1970 the Segwun is a twin screw ship with a vertical compound steam engine on each shaft ...burns "low emissions" coal. The muskokas vacation land built up at the end of the 19 century and into the early part of the 20th with a lot of rich folks building magnificent abodes. In the area it was easier to get around by boat then by road and the steamers delivered mail supplies and sundries to the area. In addition they had and have super dinner cruises. Gravenhurst was home port for the steamers and in addition boasted the Gravette (sp) Boat Works, builders of Guy Lombardos hydroplanes and magnificent wooden yachts and motorboats ...collectors items today. When I was there in 1953 I watched a master builder hand shaping the mahogany planking on a 28ft cruiser ...talk about craftsmanship.


http://www.segwun.com/
lamontdc@adelphia.net

> She is part of the remaining fleet cruising
> the Muskoka Lakes, about 100 miles North of
> Toronto.
> Built in 1887 and restored in 1970 the
> Segwun is a twin screw ship with a vertical
> compound steam engine on each shaft ...burns
> "low emissions" coal. The muskokas
> vacation land built up at the end of the 19
> century and into the early part of the 20th
> with a lot of rich folks building
> magnificent abodes. In the area it was
> easier to get around by boat then by road
> and the steamers delivered mail supplies and
> sundries to the area. In addition they had
> and have super dinner cruises. Gravenhurst
> was home port for the steamers and in
> addition boasted the Gravette (sp) Boat
> Works, builders of Guy Lombardos hydroplanes
> and magnificent wooden yachts and motorboats
> ...collectors items today. When I was there
> in 1953 I watched a master builder hand
> shaping the mahogany planking on a 28ft
> cruiser ...talk about craftsmanship.

VERY interesting! But where the heck is Gravenhurst in Ontario? I tried to get an idea from their website but was unable to.



midlandblb@cs.com

> VERY interesting! But where the heck is
> Gravenhurst in Ontario? I tried to get an
> idea from their website but was unable to.

See if this works


http://www.segwun.com/

lamontdc@adelphia.net

Gravenhurst is a beautiful place and takes about a 2 hour drive to get there from Toronto, if the traffic co-operates! The CN station has been nicely restored in situ and I think is now a restaurant. In steam days, about a half mile or so south of the station, they had coaling facilities, a wye, and a small roundhouse with, I think, 3 stalls and a run-through. Quite the spot but alas, nothing there now. They have built a replica of the Muskoka Wharf station at the original location in Gravenhurst on the water where the Segwun boards it's passengers. The trains used to run along a siding down to the water to meet the boats. If only we had the steam train to meet the steam boat now!

There are a couple other steam boats in Ontario. At Niagara-on-the-Lake there is the S.S. Pumper (wood burner) which plies it's way along the Niagara River. Also, the City of Toronto operates it's coal-fired Toronto Island ferry during the summer.

Does Anyone know if the S/s United States or Independence has been moved yet? Or are they still layed up?

> See if this works

A big help. Thanks!


midlandblb@cs.com

> Does Anyone know if the S/s United States or
> Independence has been moved yet? Or are they
> still layed up?

Believe the big U hasn't moved yet. When it does, there's sure to be a news release on the NCL web site. Also, the link below is likely to carry the story about any move it makes. Good site to visit. Take a "virtual" tour through the ship, including engine spaces. Very interesting site.
Mark D.


SS United States

> Believe the big U hasn't moved yet. When it
> does, there's sure to be a news release on
> the NCL web site. Also, the link below is
> likely to carry the story about any move it
> makes. Good site to visit. Take a
> "virtual" tour through the ship,
> including engine spaces. Very interesting
> site.
> Mark D.

I got a redirect search page when I clicked the link.

The South Carolina Railroad Museum
mconrad@compuzone.net

> I got a redirect search page when I clicked
> the link.
I don't know why it didn't work for you. Here is the address, hand typed right here in case the posted link was polluted somehow;
htp://www.ss-united-states.com/
I just came from that site, so I know it's up and running.
Mark D.

SS United States