Decapod on turntable, somewhere in East Germany. Can someone identify the location? Does it still look like that today?

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> Decapod on turntable, somewhere in East
> Germany. Can someone identify the location?
> Does it still look like that today?

When was the photo taken? I would say it doesn't appear to be East Germany, but perhaps West Germany. It looks more like the DB, rather than the DR. There were lots of roundhouses in the glory days of German steam. Heck even near the end during Easter of 1975, there were around 75 engines at the shed(roundhouse)at Rheine(north of Cologne). 3-cylinder Pacifics, 2-8-2's, and 2-10-0's.
Also in the photo the engine on the right, ahead of the turntable loco, appears to be a 38 class(Prussion 4-6-0). Those were rare in the mid-1970's. They finished in the Black Forest region.
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Well, I disagree with Greg on this one. I think it's East Germany because there is no "DB" logo on the side of the cab. It looks to me like the words "Deutsche Reichsbahn" are spelled out on the cab side under the window. That would make it East Germany for sure.

I do agree that the loco in the roundhouse furthest to the right and partly obscured by the enginer on the turntable is very likely a "38" class 4-6-0. Some of them served very late in East Germany and I've seen a few of them at plandampf events in the 1990's. Chances are that a few are still operable under private ownership.

As for the location? Good question! Any German viewers out there who can shed more light on this?

Spreaking of German steam, I've wondered why none of those locos have been imported to a U S museum. They are available and can be re-built fairly cheaply from firms in Germany and Poland (and even Russia). A 38 class 4-6-0 with 3 or 4 German open window coaches would make a great excursion consist and the decapods have a light enough axle loading to go just about anywhere. It could be the basis of an international steam museum.

Just a thought.

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> Decapod on turntable, somewhere in East
> Germany. Can someone identify the location?
> Does it still look like that today?

Neither of the Kriegsloks whose numbers I could read (52.6183 or 52.6163 to the far left; 52.5410 on the turntable) show up in database; I believe this is a historical photograph.

Having said that, I believe that several roundhouses still remain in Germany. I believe the Bochum-Dahlhausen RR Museum in Bochum-Dahlhausen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany is based in a roundhouse similiar to this one. The Railway Friends in Bw Dresden-Altstadt, Dresden-Altstadt, Sachsen, Germany appear to have a brick roundhouse.


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Wondering also if the roundhouse at Stolberg survived (near Aachen and the Dutch/Belgian border-I think there was a Stolberg in East Germany also)? I spent quite a bit of time there in '71-72. I also visited the big show at Rheine and a few other sites, but Stolberg was the one I visited regularly.

> Having said that, I believe that several
> roundhouses still remain in Germany. I
> believe the Bochum-Dahlhausen RR Museum in
> Bochum-Dahlhausen, Nordrhein-Westfalen,
> Germany is based in a roundhouse similiar to
> this one. The Railway Friends in Bw
> Dresden-Altstadt, Dresden-Altstadt, Sachsen,
> Germany appear to have a brick roundhouse.


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> Wondering also if the roundhouse at Stolberg
> survived (near Aachen and the Dutch/Belgian
> border-I think there was a Stolberg in East
> Germany also)? I spent quite a bit of time
> there in '71-72. I also visited the big show
> at Rheine and a few other sites, but
> Stolberg was the one I visited regularly.

I believe its regular service steam as well, and I guess I should have stated that. The plandampf stuff of more modern times is more clean looking, although German steam in general was well kept.

As for why nobody brought any over here, well I think its easy to assume that most folks here are very provincial when it comes to European Steam....they mostly don't like it. I remember my brother had to talk me into going to Europe in 1972, cause I had the same feeling. After the seeing regular service steam in Europe, I went back in 1974 and 1975. Hard to beleive I did a 6 week trip in 1974 for $1,000, and saw tons of steam. Today in the US the ticket for some of these specials approaches that amount! Glad I did that stuff when I was younger.
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Try this!

The Nassau Tourist Railway between Wiesbaden-Dotzheim and Limburg. In operation, 26 km between Wiesbaden-Dotzheim and Nassau(Hohenstein)

"Steam engine 50 3578. The machine was built in the year 1940 with Skoda in Pilsen and reconstructed Hanover there as 50 1106 to the German National Railroad. After the war it received a new boiler and a mixing preheater plant of the design Heinl."

A nice up and down railroad, great volunteers and very friendly!


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Ah, LIMBURG! (cheese, anyone?)

In July, 1967, while stationed near Hanau, I took a trip to Limburg from Frankfurt on a train headed by a 50 class 2-10-0. This was the only line into Frankfurt regularly served by steam then and usually tDecapods were the power.

At Limburg, I had with me a copy of TRAINS magazine which I showed to the roundhouse forman and tried to explain to him that I would like to photograph some engines. He soon had a hostler backing engines out of the roundhouse and posing them on the turntable for me. I spent several hours there and got some nice B&W stills. Not a lot of steam locos were there at the time but I did see a 2-8-4T as well as several Decapods. One Decapod had it's rods off and was doing boiler duty outside the roundhouse. Also, at the station in Limburg, I shot a Krauss-Maffei 2-8-2 on a local freight. I also remeber walking past a scrap yard in Limburg that day where a narrow gauge tank engine was sitting in green paint. It looked to be operable but wasn't fired up.

In 1998, I drove to Limburg and found the roundhouse again. All the walls and tracks were gone. It reminded me of the site of the old ICRR roundhouse in Louisville where a similar destrruction had been done. Sad, but the pictures (from both locations) remain.

-Jim Herron

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