SP 9010 (the Krauss-Maffei diesel being restored by PLA/Niles Canyon RR) had a set of trucks shipped from Paris to California via the UK also using Moveright International, but unfortunately it looks like they are out of business, their website is down and I found this notice of their liquidation: https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/03270693

Here is a description of how the trucks came back in a normal container ship: http://sp9010.ncry.org/trucks1.html

An extract: "[W]e raised the funds to buy and move the trucks and contracted with Moveright International in the UK to transport the trucks from Paris to Niles Canyon, California. Moveright had to transport the trucks to the UK in order to load them on the proper 'flats' which are containers without sides as the trucks are too wide to load in a normal container. On Monday December 9, 2013 the pair of Krauss Maffei trucks began their journey back to California on board the German-flagged Hapag-Lloyd container vessel Seoul Express from the port of Southampton, England."

Just make sure you don't hire these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvyIrsZ7Zhs

Mammoet handles really heavy moves apparently worldwide:

https://www.mammoet.com/about-us/

Look for a shipping agent in Copenhagen. If they are good in their businees they know how
to do.

From my experience ->
RoRo is the most expensive,
Heavy Lift shipping 1000tons+ is also expensive because of dedicated routing for your
goods and it is like shooting a bird with a howitzer.
Best is a regular Cargo Vessel as belly freight (this lokie is small and light enough to be
processed as belly freight. Any big port has cranes able to lift 100tons and more).
There are still a few cargo shipping lines operating on a schedule base between Eu and Am.
Here comes the shipping agent to shine to find the right thing.
For less paperwork I recommend a canadian port like Montreal (but I have no idea when
cross the border to US). For tax and duty process this as "antique" "museum piece".

This is the only video that I have found on the two A4's that were shipped to the UK that showed the ship. I've included the web site for ACL shipping. It looks like they provide the roll on roll off service.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azhu-RRqHQM&t=6s

https://www.aclcargo.com/

Not to be confused with "ro ro ro your boat."

I sincerely hope you can find cost effective shipping -I'd love to see that beauty running in the USA.

That is a beautiful loco. I personally have walked around the shipping issue for the past 18 months. If it can not fit in a container, the risk of damage, theft and vandalism is pretty big. Looked into the Koppel's that Preston Services has had for some time, while they can be worked into a shipping container, with some whittling, those loco's have been pretty much stripped of all 'goodies' and the balance is pretty bad.

Something this size will have to go deck cargo which is slow freight subject to all ocean weather. There is some ships that can take inside cargo this size because very expensive equipment is often shipped inside but this is very expensive. Further not all cargo shippers are smart enough to know how to sling a steam locomotive without bending it.

The sugar cane loco's from Maui, just deck shipping from there to a California port was over 50,000 and that was 2 years ago before the lock downs. Not including tenders. Now further fuel costs and port closures. Getting them from the rail site to a shipping port is very difficult because no one on Maui wants to work. Seller would provide no assistance at all. 50,000 was just deck cargo costs not getting it from the rail site to a port facility.

Anything that can be stolen should be removed and crated. Bells, whistles and lights will never make it over here. Brass fittings are also subject to theft. I suspect it should be partially dissembled and shipped in multiple containers with the main or big blocks shipped internal cargo. Talk to the companies that ship heavy equipment like large earth movers and backhoes. Big mining equipment.

In the past just over 2 years I have dealt with several "sellers" often when it gets down to the old saying brass tacks, they get seller's remorse or just go quiet on the transaction. A couple of sellers were real BUT had to me unreasonable requests like come in and remove mile(s) of working rail and clean off all rail, ties, ballast etc etc, just to purchase an existing loco. Shipping is one thing but coming in with heavy equipment and crew to rip up laid down rail ? Naaa.

I came home from Asia just to take care of some business and try and close some deal on a loco. Nope, they just went quiet, so now soon going back to work in Asia.

Dan

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Crossing the Gulf of Mexico with two tenders on a tramp steamer, loaded on flatracks, we had a number of desirable steam fittings loaded inside the water tanks with the hatches tacked shut. No problem, either with thieves or customs.

We had a near miss when the stevedores were securing the load, however. They wanted to tack the wheel treads to the rails, but fortunately the FEGUA guys knew better and stopped them in time..

I would comment that Hawaii to California is Jones Act shipping, and more expensive.

I second the motion. Any competent international freight forwarder worth his salt will either know how to ship a locomotive or will know of someone in the business that can. Working with a professional will ensure that all the issues will be addressed and resolved. And it can be point-to-point.

Concur with using a freight forwarder, they also will be familiar with customs requirements at each end.

DSV is a very large freight forwarder that was founded in Denmark and is a large presence in the US DoD Foreign Military Sales programs for several European countries...they can find the right ship, negotiate the best rates, offer multiple solutions based on budget, help schedule the timing of delivery to the port to meet the ship, etc.

Another good one that works several Scandinavian countries is Blue Water Shipping.