Source for #4 scoop shovels

Earl Knoob · **Posted:** Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:57 pm

I am on a quest for a source of #4 Eastern Pattern Steel Scoop Shovels.

Razorback Tools makes one, but no one seems to carry them and the outfits who carry other Razorback products are not interested in special orders.

There are #2 scoops out there, but I'm not interested in them. I want a #4.

At one time Graingers had all sizes - #2 though #12. All they list now is #2s.

Any suggstions?

k5ahudson · **Joined:** Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:30 am **Posts:** 773

Photo please.

Bob Milhaupt steamy · **Joined:** Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:03 pm **Posts:** 65

Perhaps McMaster? See https://www.mcmaster.com/shovels/shovel-type~scooping/blade-material~steel/handle-style~d/?SrchEntryWebPart_InpBox=shovel

Chris Webster · **Joined:** Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:45 am **Posts:** 1087

Razor-Back.com - #4 Eastern Pattern Steel Scoop with Wood Handle and Steel D-Grip

That's what Earl is looking for -- but, unfortunately, the "where to buy - buy online" part of their website doesn't seem to work.

Adam Phillips · **Posted:** Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:39 pm

I bought mine at Walter A. Wood back over 40 years ago. I found most stock D handles too short. It had a long straight handle which I cut off to my preferred length then attached a D handle by riveting over a carriage bolt. This outfit lists they have #4s with various handles but no photos.
https://foxymfg.com/product/4-coal-shov ... wood-hand/

Adam Phillips · **Posted:** Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:34 am

I just learned something - the # of the scoop is determined by the size of steel sheet blank required for forming the blade/shank. If you think finding coal scoops is difficult, an Ash Pan Scoop must be the holy grail. You can see what one looks like on Pg 63 of the Ames catalog.
https://stonehill-website.s3.amazonaws. ... atalog.pdf

And these guys allegedly have 35 Razorbacks in stock...
https://www.simsupply.com/departments/b ... opEALw_wcB

Rick Rowlands · **Posted:** Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:54 pm

I'm always on the lookout for coal scoops even smaller than No. 2. There is such a size, I have three of them, but nobody that I know still makes them.

That is quite an informative catalog.

Kelly Anderson · **Joined:** Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:52 am **Posts:** 2477

choodude · **Joined:** Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:58 am **Posts:** 327

Kelly Anderson wrote:

British scoops.

Try this link instead

https://www.heritagesteamsupplies.co.uk ... irons.html

Brian