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 Post subject: Re: Serving patrons with intellectual/physical disabilities
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:30 pm 

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The vestibule can also be an unsafe place to ride if somebody decides to throw rocks at the train, maybe even targeting a passenger looking out of a half open Dutch door.

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 Post subject: Re: Serving patrons with intellectual/physical disabilities
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:16 pm 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
I was interested in revisiting this subject with some kind of listing of places offering such "sensory sessions" for what I now have been firmly and haughtily lectured elsewhere are now referenced as "neurodivergent."

According to my Facebook feeds, the B&O Railroad Museum in Baltimore and the RR Museum of Pa. in Strasburg are now regularly offering scheduled sessions designed for these patrons and their families--every two months, in the case of the B&O Museum:

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To support our neurodivergent visitors, the B&O Railroad Museum is dedicating the first Sunday in February, April, June, August, and October to Sensory Awareness. These day will include environmental accommodations (no music, low lighting, quiet areas, increased signage for areas with sound effects), as well as sensory-friendly events (kids craft, train ride and tour) and resources (sensory kits, social stories, and community table).


I had one wag suggest: "You know, most of that used to be what we called 'a regular day at the museum'....."
However, yes, I've seen a few museums with a few too many "noisemakers," from the loco simulator to the CLANG-CLANG-CLANG of a trolley cab mock-up with actual trolley bells, from model/toy trains looping on a layout to any computer terminal or screen that prompts an automatic search by any young person for the Internet or a computer game..........

I carry extra foam earplugs at our on-rail events specifically for this purpose. Some parents don’t realize what a noisy environment this can be and appreciate that we can help them out for their train enthusiast children.

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 Post subject: Re: Serving patrons with intellectual/physical disabilities
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:23 pm 

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I carry extra foam earplugs at our on-rail events specifically for this purpose. Some parents don’t realize what a noisy environment this can be and appreciate that we can help them out for their train enthusiast children.


Slight difference. In function and purpose.

As someone profoundly hearing-impaired since birth, I've always been cluelessly unaware of exactly how much young children's ears are much more efficient at conveying both loud and high-pitched sounds (safety valves blowing, cylinder cocks hissing, steam whistles and air horns going off, fireworks, etc.) than even average adults, let alone grandparents. If you look around at some steam locomotive events, you'll see smaller kids sticking their fingers in their ears at the mere sight of a train a half-mile away, well-trained by either hard experience or occasionally-overzealous parents. (By contrast, if I turn off my hearing aids, I have two custom ear plugs in my ear, and there exists a photo of me somewhere at a steam whistle blow measuring the excessive vibration of a plain steam whistle's bell at full cry with a tape measure from about a foot away.....)

The problem with the "neurodivergent" is that a cacophony of sounds and other auditory inputs at even regular exposure levels........... well, anything I say will be condemned by the latest generation of the PC Police, so I'll just say they "react negatively" to such "stimuli." No, wait, the stimuli affects them "not positively"...........


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 Post subject: Re: Serving patrons with intellectual/physical disabilities
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:37 am 

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QJdriver wrote:
The vestibule can also be an unsafe place to ride if somebody decides to throw rocks at the train, maybe even targeting a passenger looking out of a half open Dutch door.


It's a shame, as I know I'm not the only one who liked riding in the old MU's engineer seats, to get away from crowds.


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 Post subject: Re: Serving patrons with intellectual/physical disabilities
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:05 pm 

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One family had been given tickets for the Sugarcreek to Baltic run years and years ago, but their train-loving son used a chair. His dad was very reluctantly asking for a refund when Mary said “oh, we have a wheelchair lift.” The absolute joy on the family’s faces...I don’t know what that thing cost, but it was worth every penny to them.

It’s worth asking your insurance company about used donated equipment. Most walking aids are lightweight and fold small enough to share a Kia Rio with three adults and a full set of golf clubs, so they’ll stow. A lot of people get mobility aids they don’t knees for long, so we’ve seen giveaways of nearly new knee scooters, various rolling chairs and a lot of the older style wheeled aluminum tubing walkers with seats. Having a chair of some kind handy, along with a plentiful supply of cold water, can head off heat exhaustion or heatstroke for a lot of people who don’t always realize they’re overheating.

For a lot of the autism spectrum, most of the adjustments, like the earplugs, are cheap. We’re all so used to the Way Steam is that we forget not everybody knows what blowing down the cylinders looks and sounds like, or when it’s safe to get down and take pictures. ”If you don’t like loud sounds, you can wait in the gift shop where it’ll be quieter but you’ll still be able to see and we’ll know where to find you.” (Okay, sneaky, but generally true. Odds are your missing passenger is in the bathroom or the gift shop.) If someone mentions they can’t hear, make sure one of you lets them know when it’s time to board again.)

If there’s a minor.problem, let the guests know what’s up: “the A/C broke, so would you folks like to ride in one of the newer coaches? Let’s find you seats while we’re stopped.” If it’s a medical emergency, let them know they’ll see an ambulance and maybe the fire department so the rumor mill doesn’t start. If the weather goes seriously sour, or one of the rare worst-case scenarios hit, they’ll be more apt to stay calm and trust you if you’re honest.

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 Post subject: Re: Serving patrons with intellectual/physical disabilities
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:19 pm 

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Just today I saw a Facebook post, where the Monticello Railway Museum supposedly provided some kind of (please excuse my use of quotation marks-I'd like to find out more) "engineer experience" for someone purportedly on the spectrum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE0zx_rAIb4

Can someone from the Monticello Railway Museum comment more? I am interested in hearing their perspective. I am asking to learn from the museum-how they evaluated the candidate, weighed potential safety concerns etc- nothing more, nothing less. I am a longtime volunteer at another museum, and like many museums, manpower can be a challenge.


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 Post subject: Re: Serving patrons with intellectual/physical disabilities
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:35 pm 

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John D wrote:
Just today I saw a Facebook post, where the Monticello Railway Museum supposedly provided some kind of (please excuse my use of quotation marks-I'd like to find out more) "engineer experience" for someone purportedly on the spectrum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE0zx_rAIb4

Can someone from the Monticello Railway Museum comment more? I am interested in hearing their perspective. I am asking to learn from the museum-how they evaluated the candidate, weighed potential safety concerns etc- nothing more, nothing less. I am a longtime volunteer at another museum, and like many museums, manpower can be a challenge.


https://www.mrym.org/throttle-time

Here is their throttle time page.


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 Post subject: Re: Serving patrons with intellectual/physical disabilities
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:36 pm 

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Pennsylvania Trolley Museum (PTM) near Pittsburgh, Pa became a Certified Autism Center in early 2024. This designation came from the International Board of Credentialing and Continuing Education Standards (IBCCES). To achieve this designation over 80% of PTM's frontline staff successfully passed specialized training. To help become certified, PTM received a Moonshot grant from Remake Learning.

Sensory Friendly Hours are offered on select Sundays. For more information go to: https://pa-trolley.org/event/sensory-fr ... hours-2-2/
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Pennsylvania Trolley Museum, Inc.


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 Post subject: Re: Serving patrons with intellectual/physical disabilities
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:38 pm 
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John D wrote:
Just today I saw a Facebook post, where the Monticello Railway Museum supposedly provided some kind of (please excuse my use of quotation marks-I'd like to find out more) "engineer experience" for someone purportedly on the spectrum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE0zx_rAIb4

Can someone from the Monticello Railway Museum comment more? I am interested in hearing their perspective. I am asking to learn from the museum-how they evaluated the candidate, weighed potential safety concerns etc- nothing more, nothing less. I am a longtime volunteer at another museum, and like many museums, manpower can be a challenge.
Can't comment for them but once had a kid who was having a birthday "run" our trolley. Just got it going and shut off the canopy switch and let him move the controller and ring the bell while I stood with my hand on the brake.


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