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 Post subject: 1838 P&R "Rocket" To Move To RR Museum of Pa.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:31 am 

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In its first move in 90 years, the 185-year-old Rocket steam locomotive recently took off from The Franklin Institute in Philadelphia to make its way to its new home at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania.

Completed in March 1838, the Rocket was the first of eight English-made locomotives purchased by the Philadelphia & Reading Railway from 1838 to 1841. The others, all made by London-based Braithwaite, Milner & Company, were named Firefly, Spitfire, Comet, Dragon, Helca, Planet and Gem, most of which remained in service for decades. The Rocket is all that remains from this group and is the oldest surviving Reading Railroad locomotive. The woodburning [0-4-0] steam locomotive Rocket originally weighed 17,000 pounds and is 17 feet long. As with most early locomotives, it did not have an enclosed cab to shelter the engineer.

“In many respects, in the early 19th century, England was a few years ahead of the United States in developing railroad technology, and in embracing the concept of railroading in general,” says Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania director Patrick C. Morrison. “The Rocket typifies this early American embrace of English railroad technology and precedent. From there, American inventors and mechanics would study, learn from and adapt this technology to their own landscapes, and begin to build and perfect their own railroad equipment.”

Morrison adds, “The Rocket was built for use at the opening of the line between Reading and Pottstown in 1838, and it faithfully served the Reading Railroad for more than 40 years. In March 1879, the Rocket was retired after having traveled 310,164 miles over the course of its career. Following its retirement, the Rocket sat unused and neglected until it was fully restored for exhibition purposes.”

“The Rocket was shown at the World’s Columbian Exposition — Chicago World’s Fair — in 1893, the Louisiana Purchase Exposition — St. Louis World’s Fair — in 1904 and the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad’s Fair of the Iron Horse in 1927. The Rocket came to The Franklin Institute on loan from the Reading Company in 1933. It was placed on public display in 1934. Since that time, it has been displayed on a portion of its original tracks next to the Baldwin 60000 locomotive. The Consolidated Rail Corporation — Conrail — the owner of the Rocket, identified the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania as the next home for this incredible early steam locomotive.”

Morrison states, “We are grateful to Conrail for their tremendous support and for entrusting the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania with this irreplaceable historic treasure of both British and American railroading We also wish to recognize The Franklin Institute for their outstanding stewardship of the Rocket over these last 90 years. In recent months, a wonderful team of people worked together diligently and carefully to prepare the Rocket for transport, and we are very appreciative of their extraordinary efforts. We will soon begin preparing the Rocket off-site for its eventual exhibition later this year in the Museum’s Rolling Stock Hall, where it will take its honored place amid the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania’s premier railroad heritage collection.”


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:08 am 

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I find it curious that Conrail owned (or still owns?) the Rocket. I worked in RDG’s engineering department when Conrail was being formed. The Reading Company trustees were extremely diligent about keeping anything and everything that had any possible commercial value and was not required for the continued operation of the railroad. For example, the trustees retained hundreds of tiny slivers of real estate along the Reading’s rights-of-way. Why? Because they had billboards on them! I wonder what sort of paperwork exists documenting ownership of the Rocket?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:46 am 

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This is great news for the RR Museum of Pennsylvania - a very historic piece to add to their wonderful collection.

I am curious about this move though... why is it being moved? Did the Franklin Institute no longer want it, or did they not think it fit their mission anymore? That's fine... just curious.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:18 pm 

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Interesting. I thought the Reading successor film/theater company was involved somehow still as well but guess not.

The Franklin is re-configuring their railroad exhibit room, amongst other sub-projects they are opening up the floor along the 60,000 to show the structure supporting the locomotive. Perhaps it was a case, in part at least, of not enough floor space left for the largest pieces and something had to give?

https://www.fi.edu/en/exhibits-and-expe ... ory-closed

Would be neat to see it exhibited near the Bull replica; perhaps they'd keep the Rocket off a "live siding" given its historic nature.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:38 pm 

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Thanks for the link - looks like the museum is looking to have less of a focus on trains in the gallery so this seems to make sense for them and is a huge win for Strasburg as well.

Will look forward to seeing her in the near future!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:32 pm 

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funny story about all the "little land parcels" along the Warminister line.
I helped do a tax parcel audit for the township to make sure we had no overlooked taxable parcels about 29 years ago.
We had tax and land maps that showed all these little chunks of land, that had an assessed value but no tax applied. In many cases the registered owner was READING COMPANY. Everybody indicated they belonged to septa but septa had no knowledge. We piled into a car and chased them down....low and behold they all had signs or billboards on them. Different billboard firms were leasing the plots or had purchased them from the survivor Reading company and never changed title. Two parcels that bordered the PA Turnpike had very large towers facing the turnpike.
At least we picked up some change for the town and county and it was a fun chase!
I know that the county went on the search and correctly taxed the land parcels all over the place. Guess the Reading Company was stumped as to why after all the years somebody caught on and applied taxes.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:38 pm 

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This was a really interesting quick read:

Derailed by Bankruptcy: Life after the Reading Railroad (Railroads Past and Present)
https://www.amazon.com/Derailed-Bankrup ... 0253018668

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What happened when the US government stopped investing in railroads and started investing in highways and air travel? By the late 1970s, six major eastern railroads had declared bankruptcy. Although he didn't like trains, Howard H. Lewis became the primary lawyer for the Reading Railroad during its legendary bankruptcy case. Here, Lewis provides a frank account of the high-intensity litigation and courtroom battles over the US government's proposal to form Conrail out of the six bankrupt railroads, which meant taking the Reading's property, leaving the railroad to prove its worth. After five grueling years, the case was ultimately settled for $186 million―three times the original offer from the US government―and Lewis became known as a champion defender of both the railroad industry and its assets.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:28 pm 

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Joshua K. Blay wrote:
Interesting. I thought the Reading successor film/theater company was involved somehow still as well but guess not.

Joshua


The Reading Company still exists and is a publicly trade firm - ticker symbol RDIB (I am a stockholder). While the company is mainly focused on movie theaters in Australia and New Zealand, they do talk about the real estate they still own that did not get conveyed to Conrail. They do make mention that "most" of it is available for sale.

Years ago I met the trustee for the estate of the Lehigh & Hudson River Railway and they had a large number of oddly shaped lots they were not conveyed to Conrail. Most of the were landlocked. The trustee was trying to interest adjacent land owners to buy them but mostly with no luck - I often wonder what they ultimately did with them.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:14 pm 

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There was another very old locomotive at the Franklin Institute: Peoples Railway #3. See the RCT&HS profile on this engine:
http://www.readingrailroad.org/profiles ... m_pr3.html

As the profile notes, the engine's provenance is unknown. If it is indeed an Eastwick and Harrison product from 1842 (and it looks like it is), it would have Harrison's patented equalized suspension that made locomotives with multiple driving axles feasible. It may well be the oldest locomotive with such a suspension.

I've looked over the engine. The patented suspension is an equalizer bar. The engine frame rests on the center of the equalizer and its ends rest on the journals of each axle. This allows each axle to undulate independently while sharing the weight of the locomotive.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:04 pm 

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Funny about that opening of the floor to see the supporting structure. Way, way back that structure was an exhibit. I know because when I worked there the structure was labeled for the different truss types. My office was under those beams and trusses. I wonder if they will get the large neodymium magnet we got stuck on one of the plates and could never get off.


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