An Insurance Scam Over a PV?

Alexander D. Mitchell IV · **Posted:** Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:54 pm

Okay, who knows the details behind this offering of a business car's "wheelsets"?

https://www.salvex.com/listings/listing ... 183026636/

Al P. · **Joined:** Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:31 pm **Posts:** 60

"Buyer's responsibility to verify quantities and condition at the time of pick up."

seams to indicate no inspection prior to bid. looks like a good one to stay far away from.

Overmod · **Joined:** Thu May 24, 2012 1:37 pm **Posts:** 2492

Sadly, it looks to me as if this car was insured and declared a 'total loss' of some kind (not difficult to determine from the picture supplied!) and this is an attempt to 'part it out' by non-preservationists. I wonder if any of the truck parts are salvageable, or have potential value... or other components on the car.

I wonder if anyone has a use for these:

https://www.salvex.com/listings/listing_detail.cfm/aucid/183034508/

"Only in storage 2-3 years", and some of the better equipment of this type...

PMC · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2876

There is an ACI tag in the photo of the truck, if someone could get a closeup perhaps one of the several here who can still read those could give us a car number.

Dave · **Posted:** Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:48 am

I'm more scratching my head over what the multi spindle nut runner listed might be......

Overmod · **Joined:** Thu May 24, 2012 1:37 pm **Posts:** 2492

Pulls all the nuts off a fishplate connection at once?

Dave · **Posted:** Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:04 am

Ouch.

Topfuel · **Joined:** Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:49 pm **Posts:** 529

Plain bearing wheelsets from a rusted-out basket case being offered by a company that seems to know nothing about what they're selling. Those wheelsets have roughly zero value for re-use. No mystery here.

Bobharbison · **Joined:** Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:42 pm **Posts:** 3011

Al P. wrote:

"Buyer's responsibility to verify quantities and condition at the time of pick up."

seams to indicate no inspection prior to bid. looks like a good one to stay far away from.

That's a standard disclaimer for auctions, not specific to this lot.

Basically saying "As-is, where is" again.

It's pretty clear what's here. Doubt they'd be much use for operation. If you've got a coach you want to display that needs some trucks under it, might be useful.

Bobharbison · **Joined:** Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:42 pm **Posts:** 3011

Laughing at the 40,000 metric tons of crane rail in a different listing. That's quite a lot of rail! Curious as to what size it might be, I took a closer look. They had a handy drawing.

Height: A Base: B Head width: C and web thickness: T.

Well, hey, that certainly clears things up!

Bobharbison · **Joined:** Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:42 pm **Posts:** 3011

Dave wrote:

I'm more scratching my head over what the multi spindle nut runner listed might be......

It looks like it's a tamper, but I'm not totally certain on that. It's in Poland and nothing I've ever seen before.

QJdriver · **Posted:** Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:48 pm

Topfuel wrote:

Plain bearing wheelsets from a rusted-out basket case being offered by a company that seems to know nothing about what they're selling. Those wheelsets have roughly zero value for re-use. No mystery here.

It looks to me like a company that's looking for somebody who knows nothing about what they're buying....

joe6167 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:24 pm

Rails in Europe generally don't use spikes, they are either bolted down or use clips. Perhaps the machine is for tightening the bolts?

bigjim4life · **Posted:** Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:14 pm

It looks like a mixed bag of sorts, when looking at their Archives page. On the first page alone, they’ve tried to sell Amtrak dining cars and “heritage cars”, both of which got no bids. On the other hand they’ve had bids on a pair of overhauled EMD SD40-3 locomotives, bids on a caboose…so while the descriptions may not be the best, they seem legit…

https://www.salvex.com/archives/1165/#

jayrod · **Posted:** Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:48 pm

Topfuel wrote:

Plain bearing wheelsets from a rusted-out basket case being offered by a company that seems to know nothing about what they're selling. Those wheelsets have roughly zero value for re-use. No mystery here.

It’s highly unlikely that you’d just drop the trucks, stick ‘em under another car and go trundling off down the track. I’d also imagine that the demand for that style of truck may not be high in the grand scheme of things, but if the main components are sound, they could be reused converted to rollers. Though I’ll admit I’m not an expert on old Pullman trucks….