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 Post subject: PV Project Car For Sale in Delaware
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:36 pm 

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Location: Somewhere east of Prescott, AZ along the old Santa Fe "Prescott & Eastern"
Look in Classifieds for the details.

At now only $12,000, does someone know anything specific that makes this a true "deal-breaker"?


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 Post subject: Re: PV Project Car For Sale in Delaware
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:07 pm 

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Well no trucks included is a big one.

Lots and lots of side sill corrosion.

A massive hole was chopped in the end of the car and a store front door and windows grafted in on the platform end.

Lots of frame corrosion as well.

Non original windows leaking into the walls

Parts, sure. Scrap? Bet the walls are still full of asbestos.

I have personally seen this car almost 10 years ago, and it was a car that could just barely be considered salvageable for service then, I very much doubt it has gotten any better.

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 Post subject: Re: PV Project Car For Sale in Delaware
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:16 pm 

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I am pretty sure this is the car that hung around in Michigan for many years, first in Traverse City then on the Huron and Eastern Railroad. Thus the PM colors. This car is zero percent original - for example the end door over the platform is from a retail store. And not in good shape 20 years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: PV Project Car For Sale in Delaware
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:35 pm 

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I know someone with a set of HW trucks that might work....located in NJ.


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 Post subject: Re: PV Project Car For Sale in Delaware
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:33 pm 

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Not to comment on its current condition but just a note on its history.

While the car was constructed by Pullman as a combine (thus the original baggage door) it was modernized by the Southern Railway at Hayne Shop with the riveted body replaced by a welded body and round roof in the late 1940s or early 1950s. AC was added and large sealed windows replaced the early raise sash windows. The modernization was similar to those done to a number of other cars many of which remain in service such as 1037 at TVRM and others at the Great Smoky Mountain Railroad.

Gary Marino, the founder of RailAmerica and after selling to G&W, Patriot Rail, removed the vestibule and converted the car to an observation car for his first acquisition the Huron and Eastern. Gary shared some photos of the car with me sometime in the 1980s. I lost track of the car until it reappeared on the Eastern Shore along with some other cars including modernized Jim Crow car Southern Railway coach 1208 another modernized car.

I wonder if Gary would want it back for old times sake?

Tim

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 Post subject: Re: PV Project Car For Sale in Delaware
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:36 pm 

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airforcerail wrote:
Well no trucks included is a big one.


Parts, sure. Scrap? Bet the walls are still full of asbestos.

I have personally seen this car almost 10 years ago, and it was a car that could just barely be considered salvageable for service then, I very much doubt it has gotten any better.


i trust you viewed my ad and have seen the video where I walked around the car pointing out any and all issues that the dreamy-eyed might miss?

Since you last saw the car some ten years ago, it has had asbestos abated from all undercar plumbing, fixtures and what not.

For any serious buyer, the trucks are still available for an additional $10K firm.

In all likelihood, once the weather warms up this spring, I will be removing any and all useable parts for other cars and commencing with the reduction to scrap metal. I've offered the car for sale for over two years now with numerous price drops. We can't save them all.

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 Post subject: Re: PV Project Car For Sale in Delaware
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:37 pm 

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Tim Andrews wrote:
Not to comment on its current condition but just a note on its history.

While the car was constructed by Pullman as a combine (thus the original baggage door) it was modernized by the Southern Railway at Hayne Shop with the riveted body replaced by a welded body and round roof in the late 1940s or early 1950s. AC was added and large sealed windows replaced the early raise sash windows. The modernization was similar to those done to a number of other cars many of which remain in service such as 1037 at TVRM and others at the Great Smoky Mountain Railroad.

Gary Marino, the founder of RailAmerica and after selling to G&W, Patriot Rail, removed the vestibule and converted the car to an observation car for his first acquisition the Huron and Eastern. Gary shared some photos of the car with me sometime in the 1980s. I lost track of the car until it reappeared on the Eastern Shore along with some other cars including modernized Jim Crow car Southern Railway coach 1208 another modernized car.

I wonder if Gary would want it back for old times sake?

Tim


If you are still in touch with him, I would welcome the opportunity to give him an opportunity to get the car "home"

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