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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:44 pm 

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whodom wrote:
Good news on the Blue Ridge Sub yesterday; video posted to the Clinchfield Railroad group on Facebook shows a train of side dump hoppers headed north filling in a minor washout at the Catawba River just north of Marion.

Work has started.

What is a "side dump hopper" ?


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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 5:59 am 

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Conventional hoppers are "center dump", i.e., through the gauge over a pit or elevated structure.

Side dump hoppers are typically built for MofW service and designed to dump outside the gauge. They're used to build or restore the ballast shoulders.


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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:21 am 

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Drone video from the Nolichucky Gorge around Poplar, NC. This is between Spruce Pine, NC and Erwin, TN. This shows what is probably the worst destruction along the former Clinchfield Railroad.

https://youtu.be/epRKspdRgic

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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:42 am 

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tdmidget wrote:
What is a "side dump hopper" ?


Here's some pictures:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=side+dump+rai ... &ia=images


The ones I've used are powered with air from the locomotives and take awhile to charge up the air reservoir before you can dump them.

Brian Helfrich


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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:41 am 

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choodude wrote:
tdmidget wrote:
What is a "side dump hopper" ?


Here's some pictures:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=side+dump+rai ... &ia=images


The ones I've used are powered with air from the locomotives and take awhile to charge up the air reservoir before you can dump them.

Brian Helfrich


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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:59 am 

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A "hopper" , railroad or not, by definition discharges from the bottom. "Side dump" removes it from being a "hopper".


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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:50 pm 

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More bad news for NS' AS line: https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... hern-line/ Newport Police Department photo.


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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:06 pm 

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Here's a side dump ballast car in action on the UP. A set of big piston air cylinders on both sides and both ends of the car dumps tilting body of the car to either side. I was the engineer on this that day....somewhere I've got the video I had the section man take of us dumping the car... but can only find this still shot. 

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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:09 am 

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I wish I had specific images and pages to quote, but in the 'early days' of side-dump equipment, some of these cars were built on the 'dumbwaiter' principle: the tilting bed was supported on near-circular 'irons' arranged so that the bed would self-dump when tripped, then be 'counterweighted' to come back level and latch when the material had slid out.

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 Post subject: Re: Commentary on Hurricane Helene
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:16 pm 

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PMC wrote:
More bad news for NS' AS line: https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... hern-line/ Newport Police Department photo.


I looked throuhg the google street view photos of the bridge. While they did go through in August 2023, the best photo is this one from November 2016 with no leaves on the threes and you can see the center pier.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eqjF6rM5vtzDL4pt9

It's bad what's happened down there and others have said it, never understimate the power of water.

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