> Too bad a group or organization was not
> saavy or prescient enough to PURCHASE a
> Hudson or Niagara outright.

> Monday morning quarterbacking ? Yes, of
> course.
About 20 years ago I met the late Karl Englund who was on holiday here in New Zealand and since he had been a member of the NYC board at the demise of steam I asked him why none of that roads magnificent power had been saved. The essence of his reply was that the President at the time had a family interest in a particular scrapyard and was intent on ensuring as much as possible headed in that direction. Stewart Saunders was not the name he mentioned but I would know it if I saw it.His words!

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Dave, your point about Jim Bradley is well-taken. Let's add Dick Jensen to the list of exceptions to the notion that people in the 50's/60's couldn't make such acquisitions.

> About 20 years ago I met the late Karl
> Englund who was on holiday here in New
> Zealand and since he had been a member of
> the NYC board at the demise of steam I asked
> him why none of that roads magnificent power
> had been saved. The essence of his reply was
> that the President at the time had a family
> interest in a particular scrapyard and was
> intent on ensuring as much as possible
> headed in that direction. Stewart Saunders
> was not the name he mentioned but I would
> know it if I saw it.His words!

The "gentleman" in question was Alfred E. Perlman, whose family had an interest in Luria Brothers as I recall.

Stuart Saunders was the man who dieselized the Norfolk & Western, and went on with Perlman to drive Penn Central to bankruptcy court. Saunders' motives were more philosophical. He wanted to modernize the N&W, and thought steam preservation was counterproductive. He was determined at one point to scrap every last N&W steam engine. I'm told 611 had to be hidden from him at Schaefer's Crossing. I would love to know how Y-6b #2156 made it to the Museum of Transport.


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