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 Post subject: Comprehensive "Jersey Builder" passenger car roster?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2025 5:26 pm 

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Posted this on RR.net a few days ago and got no bites. Perhaps all the old timers are gone, so I'll try it here.

An exhaustive internet search seems to yield only a sparse selection of the roster, so I'm putting the word out here.

For a large modeling project, I'm trying to find a definitive list of the "Jersey Builder" passenger cars that made it to NJ Transit in NJDOT midnight blue / platinum mist / red stripe paint.

These were the cars paired with the E-8s until 1987 when E-8 powered service on the NJCL ended. The same long-distance coaches originally acquired by the CNJ and reconfigured for commuter service.

From what I've been able to determine, there were 35 of these cars in all, originally numbered 100-134 by the CNJ. There is no rhyme or reason to how they were re-numbered by NJDOT/NJT, except that they received numbers in the 5300-series. I've only been able to verify 20 of the 35 cars.

I need the final numbering for all these cars under NJT, and specifically the one's still in NJDOT paint, as I'm paring them with at least 6 NJDOT-painted E-8s and I want accurately numbered cars. Any help would be much obliged.



Fingers crossed

An example in the link below:
http://www.m.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=5873463


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 Post subject: Re: Comprehensive "Jersey Builder" passenger car roster?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 11:06 am 

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More an overall roster of second hand equipment that NJ Transit had, but the second page for the New Jersey DOT of Passcar Photos is a great place to start (just be weary of some dead links)

Link: https://passcarphotos.rypn.org/Indices/NJT2.htm


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 11:54 am 

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Daylight25 wrote:
More an overall roster of second hand equipment that NJ Transit had, but the second page for the New Jersey DOT of Passcar Photos is a great place to start (just be weary of some dead links)

Link: https://passcarphotos.rypn.org/Indices/NJT2.htm


Much obliged, but I have been through those backwards and forwards already. It was one of my first stops. Verified most of the 20 cars I know from those photos.

Here's what I have so far:

CNJ 100 = NJDOT/NJT 5329
CNJ 101 = ???
CNJ 102 = NJDOT/NJT 5310
CNJ 103 = NJDOT/NJT 5312
CNJ 104 = NJDOT/NJT 5301
CNJ 105 = ???
CNJ 106 = NJDOT/NJT 5302
CNJ 107 = ???
CNJ 108 = ???
CNJ 109 = NJDOT/NJT 5316
CNJ 110 = NJDOT/NJT 5317
CNJ 111 = ???
CNJ 112 = NJDOT/NJT 5334
CNJ 113 = NJDOT/NJT 5319
CNJ 114 = ???
CNJ 115 = NJDOT/NJT 5331
CNJ 116 = NJDOT/NJT 5318
CNJ 117 = ???
CNJ 118 = NJDOT/NJT 5320
CNJ 119 = NJDOT/NJT 5327
CNJ 120 = ???
CNJ 121 = NJDOT/NJT 5332
CNJ 122 = ???
CNJ 123 = NJDOT/NJT 5333
CNJ 124 = ???
CNJ 125 = ???
CNJ 126 = NJDOT/NJT 5321
CNJ 127 = ???
CNJ 128 = ???
CNJ 129 = NJDOT/NJT 5326
CNJ 130 = ???
CNJ 131 = ???
CNJ 132 = ???
CNJ 133 = NJDOT/NJT 5328
CNJ 134 = NJDOT/NJT 5306

CNJ ??? = NJDOT/NJT 5315


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 Post subject: Re: Comprehensive "Jersey Builder" passenger car roster?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:28 pm 
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These cars were discussed many years ago in the following thread (on page #2): https://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35609

At the time, I did not have the full #5300-series renumberings, but I do have that data now, so I will include those that you are missing here, as well as corrections:

Missing:

#101 to #5300
#105 to #5313
#107 to #5314
#108 to #5315
#111 to #5311
#114 to #5325
#117 to #5308
#120 to #5304
#122 to #5309
#124 to #5307
#125 to #5334
#127 to #5322
#128 to #5305
#130 to #5323
#131 to #5327
#132 to #5324

Corrections:

#112 to #5330, not #5334
#113 to #5318, not #5319
#116 to #5319, not #5318
#119 to #5303, not #5327

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 Post subject: Re: Comprehensive "Jersey Builder" passenger car roster?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 3:31 pm 

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Rainier Rails wrote:
These cars were discussed many years ago in the following thread (on page #2): https://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35609

At the time, I did not have the full #5300-series renumberings, but I do have that data now, so I will include those that you are missing here, as well as corrections:

Missing:

#101 to #5300
#105 to #5313
#107 to #5314
#108 to #5315
#111 to #5311
#114 to #5325
#117 to #5308
#120 to #5304
#122 to #5309
#124 to #5307
#125 to #5334
#127 to #5322
#128 to #5305
#130 to #5323
#131 to #5327
#132 to #5324

Corrections:

#112 to #5330, not #5334
#113 to #5318, not #5319
#116 to #5319, not #5318
#119 to #5303, not #5327


Wow! That is one of the most impressive collections of information I've ever seen. Truly stellar work, Brother Brumberg!

I was beginning to deduce that the NJT series was going to be 5300-5334, but I wanted to be sure. I figured the answer would eventually lie in the original GN accounting, but that was a rabbit hole I wasn't prepared to go down.

Thank you for your original heavy lift on this. I really do appreciate it.


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