PRR #4666

Bill · **Posted:** Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:38 pm

Does anyone know the current location of PRR doodlebug #4666? Is it operable? I believe it was operated at the Black River & Western RR for a number of years, but their web site does not list it.

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Ron Muldowney · **Posted:** Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:42 pm

I live about two miles from the Ringoes station and shop area. The PRR #4666 is sitting on a side track and as been for quite some time. I believe that it needs work before it can run again. It would be great to see it running again and I cannot remember the last time it ran. It used to be great when BR&W used to run their 2-8-0. They used to run a Saturday night steam run to Lambertville that used to come back around 11 PM. It was great to hear the locomotive working up the grade coming back into Ringoes!!!

steamfan@crusoe.net

CP O'Shea · **Posted:** Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:32 am

> Does anyone know the current location of PRR
> doodlebug #4666? Is it operable? I believe
> it was operated at the Black River &
> Western RR for a number of years, but their
> web site does not list it.

Some years ago, BR&W sold 4666 (along with RS-1 #57) to a private individual. The car remains at Ringoes, NJ ... and the current owner has been slowly restoring the car to operable condition (the car was falling into disrepair and needed a major overhaul while owned by BRW), and has done a fair amount of work on it. Reportedly, the auxiliary engine has been replaced, considerable steel work to the frame and draft gear on the passenger compartment end (including strengthening the structure to handle a modern tightlock coupler), and a new rubberized roof have been installed. Last I heard, the car is capable of moving under its own power, but isn't far enough along that it's ready for fare-paying passengers.

The current owner is committed to doing the job right, and attends to its needs as his funds allow...

Fiv4HghStk@aol.com

Jim Evans · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:05 am

> Some years ago, BR&W sold 4666 (along
> with RS-1 #57) to a private individual.

Would this RS-1 #57 be the current EPRY RS-1 #57, located in Quakertown, PA? (attached is a picture of #57 and #3153 on the EPRY photo freight a few years ago.)

And CP, thanks for asking the right questions about the 614 on the chaski board.

JimE

Jim's train pages

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Art Schwartz · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:31 am

Just curious, how many of the large 1925-30 vintage gas-electric cars have been preserved.

I can think of 9, incuding ATSF M160, M177, and M190, B&M 1180, Erie 5012, GN 2313, PRR 4662 and 4666, and UP M-35. Only Erie 5012, rusting away in Worthington, Ohio, appears to be endangered.

Are there any others?

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Boyd Owens · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:29 am

CB&Q 9735 is at the Minnesota Transportation Museum.

Boyd

CB&Q 9735 on MTM Roster

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Boyd Owens · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:55 am

Also, the body of a Rock Island car is at the Fairbury Rock Island Depot Museum in Fairbury, KS.
It's not endangered, but it's in pretty sad shape.

Boyd

Fairbury Rock Island Depot Museum

bowens@rypn.org

Boyd Owens · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:03 am

Another CB&Q car, #507 is at the Fort Madison, Farmington & Western RR in Donnellson, IA.

Boyd

Fort Madison, Farmington & Western RR

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Boyd Owens · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:23 am

This car was formerly Rock Island #9047.

Boyd

bowens@rypn.org

Rob Davis · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:47 am

Add to the list:

MEC #??? (at Unity, Maine)

NYC M-405 on the Ulster & Delaware in NYC

Clint Jone's KC car is still around, right?

Of course, Sperry has a slew, including 7 (1) from the Lehigh Valley apparently plus B&M, NYC and others...

rdavis@rypn.org

Boyd Owens · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:54 am

CB&Q 9735 at the Minnesota Transportation Museum is Clint Jones's KC car.

Boyd

bowens@rypn.org

K.R. Bell · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:26 pm

Don't forget PRR 4668 stored indoors on the Escanba & Lake Superior.

> Just curious, how many of the large 1925-30
> vintage gas-electric cars have been
> preserved.

> I can think of 9, incuding ATSF M160, M177,
> and M190, B&M 1180, Erie 5012, GN 2313,
> PRR 4662 and 4666, and UP M-35. Only Erie
> 5012, rusting away in Worthington, Ohio,
> appears to be endangered.

> Are there any others?

T.J. Gaffney · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:39 pm

> Don't forget PRR 4668 stored indoors on the
> Escanba & Lake Superior.

Is there and list of whats at Wells? I know the Baldwin Sharks and one of the Chapel Cars (although I'm not sure which one), but what else?

Port Huron Museum
tjgaffney@phmuseum.org

Dan Rohrback · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:20 pm

> Also, the body of a Rock Island car is at
> the Fairbury Rock Island Depot Museum in
> Fairbury, KS.
> It's not endangered, but it's in pretty sad
> shape.

> Boyd

Hey Boyd,
Just a minor note, that I believe Fairbury is in Nebraska, not Kansas.
Dan

dan-rohrback@cox.net

T.J. Gaffney · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:49 pm

> Is there and list of whats at Wells? I know
> the Baldwin Sharks and one of the Chapel
> Cars (although I'm not sure which one), but
> what else?

Found this on the Skytop Lounges site:

"187 "Coon Rapids" - Purchased by Dave Vannes Madison WI. Car was moved to storage in upper Michigan during the mid 1970's and was used in a couple of excursions over the Escanaba & Lake Superior RR. The car was seriously damaged during long term outdoor storage and was repossesed by John Larkin for back payments owed to the former owners after his purchase of the E&LS during 1980. The car was moved to indoor storage in the old "P&H" plant in Escanaba MI along with former Milwaukee "Super Dome" #51"

"Coffee Creek" Restoration

tjgaffney@phmuseum.org