Some years ago, there was a move to save these big ship unloaders along the Lake Erie waterfront. Was that successful, or were they scrapped?

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I have taken the nickel tour on the Mather in Cleveland and they had a picture in their museum (cargo hold #1) of one working. I don't recall there being any there up river at the steel mill.

Try the link below to see if there is any info about them.

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> Try the link below to see if there is any
> info about them.

I tried the link in Ray's post, and found the following brief article, dated 1/31/03:
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Demolition Begins on Cleveland's Huletts
01/31:
A court ruling last week cleared the way for the Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority to begin the removal of four Hulett Ore Unloaders on Whiskey Island. On Sunday morning crews began dismantling the Huletts and had cut the bucket off of the eastern most unit.
Two of the Huletts will be dismantled and stored for future use at a proposed park along the Cuyahoga River. The site on Whiskey Island will then be used to handle bulk cargoes in the port.
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Dan



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> Bill,
> Thanks for the reply, and as I suspected,
> this is going to be more complicated than
> what meets the eye. And after reading your
> information, I think the party with the
> "one octave lower factoid" either
> was talking to a tone deaf person or it was
> just a wild statement with no real musical
> background. If I had to double the diameter
> of the Reading whistle which has a 6"
> bell, that would make the CNJ whistle have a
> 12" bell, and from photos of the G-4's
> the whistle is no where that large. The
> resulting whistle bell would be more on the
> order of 36" long and 12" in
> diameter, which is more like a steam boat
> whistle. Well, I guess it's back to more
> research on this, and it's not going to be
> easy unless someone comes up with either a
> drawing, actual dimensions, or beyond all
> hope, an real live Blue Comet whistle.
> Thanks again ,Bill.

Warren,

I was a bit skeptical when you said the CNJ whistle was one octave lower. That seemed a bit much. Perhaps the tone of it is deeper, but not necessarily lower, which would be due to diameter. The larger the diameter for a given pitch, the more fundamental the tone, i. e., darker, deeper, or more throaty the sound.

Bill


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These Huletts and the battle to save them have been covered from time to time in the Society for Industrial Archeology newsletter and elsewhere. If I recall correctly, only the elbow-shaped dipping arms of two of the four unloaders will be salvaged for possible future re-erection. The massive unloading bridge and craneway and railroad plant will be scrapped. An interesting feature of this unloader, which was built for the Pennsylvania Railroad, was the electric poling locomotives that ran on very narrow-guage tracks (19 inch?) between the standard-guage tracks that carried hopper cars under the unloading bridge. The poling motors, run from overhead trolley wire, were used to position the hoppers for loading by pushing the cars' poling pockets with mechanical arms that unfolded out from either side of the locomotives. The electric motors had their own little engine house. All of this was demonstrated by Conrail for the SIA convention when it was held at Cleveland some years ago. I could be imagining it, but I recall the poling locomotives as still carrying PRR keystone heralds.

A poling locomotive from another unloader (NKP?) is preserved at the Mad River and Nickel Plate museum at Bellevue.

Aarne Frobom
The Steam Railroading Institute
P. O. Box 665
Owosso, MI 48867-0665

As some of you know we at the Georgia State Railroad Museum have been working on the completion of two major projects. The complete overhaul of our 1913/24/44 turntable(long story on the different years)and the rebuild/retrofit of our former rusting hulk of a 1937 davenport diesel loco. Both operated for the first time on friday of last week.
The table was COMPLETELY rebuilt, the component rebuilding of the centerbearing, tractor gear, and the manufacturing of 9 new races for the axles(table has roller bearings) of the idler wheels was completed by Scott Lindsay of Steam Operations Corporation. Absolutely beautiful work Scott! The races were a last minute addition to the project, Scott made them in only five days....he really baled us out. The wheels were machined, idler bearings rebuilt, and all assembly/disassembly( would you believe the removal of the centerbearing only required the table to be lifted 18 inches!) work was completed by inhouse staff.....this was only possible because I had free use off all machines in the areas largest/best equipped machine shop. The owner(wishes to remain nameless)was a great help he made new adjusting screws and nuts(about 4.5in dia threads, 6tpi)on a cnc lathe at no charge. That, coupled with the use of his shop allowed this project to be completed by it's deadline of last saturday.
The davenport was repowered with a six cylinder cummins and an allison auto trans, a 26nl brake system installed, new coat of PPG Delta along with an endless list of other things. Once again the machine shop owner is owed a great thanks for his contributions to this project. A custom built main resevoir and endless hours of volunteer work just to name a few.
We have an incredibly talented crew here, and the project could not have been done on time if not for the help of all involved. A great thanks goes out to Warren Douglas, he came into town from Atlanta last tuesday to help.....he was there everynight until midnight last week with me to help make this thing come together.
Anywho, there is much going on in Savannah,GA. I encourage everyone to make a trip, there's plenty of non-railroad things to experience in this town to interest the entire family.


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