I noticed that IRM has a Lima diesel switcher (Armco Steel #E110). How many others survive? Also, were any diesels built before the merge with Hamilton? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.


mckay1995@comcast.net

> I noticed that IRM has a Lima diesel
> switcher (Armco Steel #E110). How many
> others survive? Also, were any diesels built
> before the merge with Hamilton? Any info
> would be appreciated. Thanks.

There are a total of six surviving Lima-Hamilton Diesels. All are end cab switchers. William Gray or Dave Farlow could probably give you more info. There are two operable LH diesels at the Whitewater Valley Railroad in Connersville Indiana. The ex-CUT #25 has been a mainstay of the railroad since the early 1970's. The ex-ARMCO #709 (E-137), (check my email address, I spent alot of time under hood of this one) is more or less operable, but is undergoing a cosmetic restoration from a recent grant. The 25 is a six cylinder with 750hp, and the 709 is an eight cylinder 1000hp. Also on the property is an ex-B&O #320 (1200hp) that also did work for ARMCO as E-123. The LH at IRM is the fourth, with the fifth working for a dock company up in Michigan (help me out here William) and another ex-CUT locomotive in Indiana. There used to be two up in Michigan, a six cylinder and the demonstrator. One was cut up, but not sure which.

These were nice locomotives, with the bullet-proof Westinghouse electrical gear. They are slow to load, but pull better than ALCO's (incidently there is also an operable ALCO S-1 at the WVRR) and EMD's.

I don't believe there were any diesels built under the Lima name before the Lima and Hamilton merger, as the prime movers were a Hamilton Engine product, from Hamilton, Ohio. After Lima-Hamilton and Baldwin merged, the LH line was dropped and the Baldwin models were then produced under the name Baldwin-Lima-Hamilton.

The only LH locos you can ride behind operate on the WVRR. Stop by and ride behind the #25 this summer.

http://www.whitewatervalleyrr.org/

Ryan

lima709@usadaily.net

>Nicholsen Terminal & Dock near Detroit used to have two on the property-a former CUT 6 cylinder and one of the two original demonstrators. CUT #20 sits in Brookville, Ind. on I&O property and Whitewater Valley in Connersville, Ind. has three-CUT #25, Armco 709, and an ex-B&O unit. I have always heard rumors of a NYC unit in a scrap yard near Cleveland but have never had that confirmed. #25 is the only serviceable unit of the lot as far as I know.

I noticed that IRM has a Lima diesel
> switcher (Armco Steel #E110). How many
> others survive? Also, were any diesels built
> before the merge with Hamilton? Any info
> would be appreciated. Thanks.


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The surviving Nicholson locomotive is believed to be C.U.T. #22. Nicholson #16 supposedly only survives as a cut down frame and running gear. #16 was TP&W #300, nee L-H #1000. #1000 was the only L-H diesel built with horizontal radiator shutters. Also it only was built with the upper two "picture windows" in the rear of the cab.

#16(1985)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-n/ndt16ags.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-n/ntd16ags.jpg

#22(1985)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-n/ntd22ags.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-n/ntd22bgs.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-n/ntd22cgs.jpg

Here at the Whitewater, #25 has operated every season since it arrived in 1973. Progress on Armco #709 is moving along nicely. B&O #320 has donated the use of its trucks for us to build idlers to move our Baldwin DS-4-4-1000 and B-L-H S12.

#25(2003)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/steamtown/wwvr25aec.jpg

#25(1986)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-w/wvrr25ags.jpg

#320(2001)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/steamtown/wwvr25aec.jpg

Cincinnati Union Terminal #22 #23 #24 #25(1967)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cin-ut/cin-ut.html



Whitewater Valley Railroad

Curator@WhitewaterValleyRR.org

> The surviving Nicholson locomotive is
> believed to be C.U.T. #22. Nicholson #16
> supposedly only survives as a cut down frame
> and running gear. #16 was TP&W #300, nee
> L-H #1000. #1000 was the only L-H diesel
> built with horizontal radiator shutters.

Far be it from me to pick a debate over idiotically-arcane trivia like this, but my plotos of the 22 Lima center-cab transfer locos built for the PRR indicate horizontal radiator shutters..........

Oh, no........ I've become one of those dreaded PRR rivet-counters!!!!! HELP!!!!!


LNER4472-NOSPAM-@bcpl.net

> Far be it from me to pick a debate over
> idiotically-arcane trivia like this, but my
> plotos of the 22 Lima center-cab transfer
> locos built for the PRR indicate horizontal
> radiator shutters..........

> Oh, no........ I've become one of those
> dreaded PRR rivet-counters!!!!! HELP!!!!!

I'm Sorry...I forgot the word "switcher"..... But transfers don't count anyway, Do they? :)

Whitewater Valley Railroad

Curator@WhitewaterValleyRR.org