I was looking at the photo of the locomotive run by the Buckley Old Engine show people. And I was curious, where do they store the water for this locomotive. It appears to be a saddle-tanker sans the saddletank. Is water held in the caboose in some sort of tank? Has anyone ventured out to see this locomotive operate? What input can be offered??

Where are the discharge lines for water into the boiler. Are they in another location because it is supposed to be a saddletanker?

I don't know about this particular engine; but many European builders incorporated the water tank into the frame of the locomotive. (Orenstein & Koppel and Arnold Jung built lots of them, but so did others.) They were known as well tanks; if there were "tanks" on the side of the locomotive, they actually held coal or fuel oil rather than water.

One visual clue that locomotive is a well tank locomotive is that the frame is very deep; in order to accomidate the tank. In this particular locomotive; I can't tell from the steam and shadows if that is the case.

In addition, chasing pipes should show that the injectors are drawing water from what appears to be the frame of the locomotive. Hope this helps.

According to my list; this is an ALCO; but I have no builders number. Anyone know?

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

Surviving World Steam Project

I found a good picture of the cab http://www.crapshoot.puddingbowl.org/en ... w/key70013

Davenport also built a between the frames water tank during the early '20's. From the Geared Steam Loco web page, scroll down a bit.

http://www.gearedsteam.com/davenport/fixed_frame/components.htm

Ed

This lokie appears to be a stock Alco 0-4-0T sans saddle tank. The car behind it appears to be the crane tender for the crane behind it, and it looks to me like there is a water tank (circuar, rusty) sitting on the deck of the car. So that's probably the source of the water for the engine. I also note no injector feed or check valve on the left side, another hallmark of an industrial loco.

More curious is the one course boiler. Was this common with later built small engines from Alco? What is the construction date for this engine?

Michael Seitz
Missoula MT

Michael, I would guess that the single course is because of size. This little engine would just about fit in 1218's, or 3985's smokebox.

I went to Buckley about 4 years ago. This is an Alco saddle tank 0-4-0 with the saddle tank removed. They carry coal in the original rear bunker. The "tender" is a transfer caboose with a water tank in the front open section. The track is about a mile of new costruction on the show grounds.

To answer the question of the last two posts in regard to the injector check it is located in the shadow near the front of the air tank. It was standard practice to locate the injector delivery and the check below the level of the tank....generally they were placed at around 4 o'clock and 8 o'clock. I can assure you that it was never a "hallmark" sign of an industrial loco for there to be no injector on the left side. Every industrial locomotive I have ever seen has two injectors....it had always been standard practice for locomotives built in this country to have two sources of feedwater.