A few 1361 Pics

rrmuseum · **Posted:** Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:39 am

Picture of the tender taken this past week.http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=113377Picture of the locomotive taken this past week as riveting is underwayhttp://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=113371Thanks

Dave Lewandoski · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:58 pm **Posts:** 1083

thanks for sharing. Is the red metal on the tender replacement?

rrmuseum · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:47 pm

The red is the only thing original. Just the top 4 feet of each side, the steps and one toolbox. Everything else, the bottom 4 feet of each side, the back, the roof, the entire floor, bracing, the slope sheets, the trough, and one toolbox were fabricated new - almost entirely by our crew.Thanks

Dave Lewandoski · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:58 pm **Posts:** 1083

well that just shows what 40+years of sitting out in the weather will do.And although it's not as fast as most of us like, it's still good to see some progress. Thanks again for the update, and PLEASE keep them comming!

Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:22 pm

Ihope people don't ridicule this question, but the first thing that comes to my mind is, why didn't you make a second K4s alongside the original? I understand money has been an issue, but it would have been sweet to see a sister built from scratch, using the prototype as a base for construction.

davew833 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:42 am

Does the #1361 (or PRR K4's in general) have an integral cast frame bed/cylinders, or is the frame fabricated? I understand such large castings are extremely difficult (if not impossible) to make now.

Prrdoc · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:49 pm

The frame is cast as one piece. I do not believe there is anyplace in the US where such a large casting can currently be produced. Thanks,

G. W. Laepple · **Joined:** Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:10 pm **Posts:** 1182

I've creased my skull on the frame of 1361 more than once, and I can assure you it is actually several large forgings joined by cross braces. The cylinders are half-saddles bolted together and to the frame, and the one-piece pilot is a weldment.

Dave · **Posted:** Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:35 am

Assuming somebody wanted to build another K4 - or for that matter, any full size replica - duplicating 60 year old state of the art techniques is neither the critical deciding factor nor the most practical alternative. We can do so much more in terms of cutting and fabrication now than we could then that there is no reason a fabricated frame with high pressure water cut components wouldn't do just as well if not better.dave

Stephen Hussar · **Posted:** Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:50 am

A couple of nice pics from 1987 by Mark Wurst. http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=30309http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=5503