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 Post subject: L&N Civil War Cars
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:59 pm 

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Anybody care to comment, support, or debunk the news story about civil war L&N railway cars?

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 Post subject: Re: L&N Civil War Cars
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:19 pm 

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If you are referring to the news item from WBKO in Bowling Green, Kentucky referring to the "Civil War" era cars on display at the train station, I think it is a case of the media getting it wrong. Of course, the L&N mainline from Louisville and Nashville barely predates the Civil War, the first through train ran in 1859. The four cars on display at the depot are:1. L&N steel sheathed business car 3532. L&N Painted ex SP diner 10202, now named "Duncan Hines"3. L&N Pullman Standard Pine Series sleeper "Towering Pine4. L&N Painted ex B&O bay window cabooseThe oldest of these cars is the business car, which probably dates from around 1912 or so. It looks much more modern by the inclusion of a turtleback roof and the sheathing. The oldest L&N passenger cars around are probably the three remaining Jim Crow combines. These were all rebuilt from coaches constructed in the 1890-1910 range. They have a center baggage section, and two segregated passenger sections. Most received fish belly steel frames later on. One was originally in Florida, but somehow ended up in Canada. It was for sale several years ago, but I don't know what happened to it. Another, lettered for the Glasgow Railroad, an L&N-leased line, was parked next to the Glasgow, KY freight station at the end of passenger service in the 1950s and has sat ever since. From some pictures taken several years ago, it is nothing more than a frame, with a rickety structure and some trucks. Number 665 has been in the possession of the Kentucky Railway Museum since it's founding. It was loaned to the L&N in the early 1960s to be the car pulled by "The General." It actually was a nice car at one time. Since the L&N returned it, the KRM hasn't done much of anything, save for putting a tarp over it. Current museum management doesn't seem too interested or concerned about the long term preservation of the car, let alone short-term stabilization or cocooning. This past summer I showed the executive director Kelly Anderson's article from RYPN on how Strassburg cocoons wooden cars. It was immediately dismissed as being "too expensive." Then again, allowing the car to be open to vandals and prey to the elements will turn out to be expensive in the long run. I don’t know of any “civil war era” L&N equipment surviving.Here is a photo I took of one of the cars in 2003.Image


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