Ex OC FP9s in Transit

Joshua K. Blay · **Posted:** Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:09 pm

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=146386

Tim Botti · **Posted:** Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:48 pm

I'll be honest, that pic's a little depressing for me to look at.

On the positive note, at least they're going to a good home.

TB

Benjamin True · **Posted:** Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:40 pm

Out of curiosity, does any one know why CP bought these two?
Just available?

It just sounds strange to me that such a large railroad would some to such a small one looking for power....

teqdiver · **Joined:** Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:18 pm **Posts:** 81

Yeah, I was at Morgan Run the day they left. I was working on 1293. They were sitting just outside the door to the engine house for a bit. I turned around to do some wrenching and they were gone... I was kicking myself for not snapping a quick picture.

Ryan

Joshua K. Blay · **Posted:** Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:26 pm

Someone on another website was reporting that CPR will not be rebuilding their 1400/1401, part current exec/excursion F power, hence the purchase of these units. Anyone know the plans for the 1400/1401? (one if not both original CPR unlike these CN/VIA/OC units).

Joshua

k5ahudson · **Joined:** Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:30 am **Posts:** 773

Joshua K. Blay wrote:

Anyone know the plans for the 1400/1401? (one if not both original CPR unlike these CN/VIA/OC units).

They have no plans on getting rid of 1401 for now, but 1400 is toast! It has already been stripped of many of its internal parts.

johnacraft · **Joined:** Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:53 pm **Posts:** 660

Benjamin True wrote:

Out of curiosity, does any one know why CP bought these two?
Just available?

It just sounds strange to me that such a large railroad would some to such a small one looking for power....

My understanding is that it's less expensive to purchase these, than to overhaul the current Royal Canadian Pacific A-units.

pm-man · **Posted:** Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:59 am

Ryan-
Don't feel alone; I was working on the same engine (probably in the same spot) the day they arrived. Funny --- never figured I'd see them leave so soon. Then again, there's a lot of things that, well..... ah, forget it.

TJG

Tom Cornillie · **Posted:** Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:58 am

It is my understanding that the ex-OC units were among a group of FP-9's that VIA had rebuilt in the early 1990's to cover a few of their remaining non-mainline services. This rebuilding included self-contained HEP generators (hence the mufflers on the rear of the units). I do not know what else this rebuilding entailed.

Likewise, the ex-Nebokta units did not pass through such a rebuilding program. (for those interested, I recommend asking at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LocoNotes/ )

Here is data on the heritage of the ex-Nebokta units: from

http://membrane.com/~elmer/rail/units/f_units.html - which remains an execellent resource for tracking F-units.

CP FP7A Canadian Canada Active A520 4/53
1400 Pacific ex NEB 55, ex VIA 6550, ex VIA 1400,
ex CP 1400, nee CP 4099

CP FP9A Canadian Canada Active A1401 7/58
1401 Pacifc ex NEB 54, ex VIA 6541, ex CN 6541

CP F9B Canadian Canada Active A629 1/55
1900 Pacific ex NEB 66, ex VIA 6612, ex CN 6612

Tom Cornillie

Randy Gustafson · **Posted:** Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:29 pm

Are these the F's that came out of the Gettysburg RR operation?

k5ahudson · **Joined:** Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:30 am **Posts:** 773

Randy Gustafson wrote:

Are these the F's that came out of the Gettysburg RR operation?

No. I believe OCRR purchased them directly from VIA two or three years ago. They were rebuilt and painted in PRR liverly by the Ontario Northland Railway shortly after they purchased them. I may be wrong about it being ONR, but I know the work was all done in Ontario before leaving Canada.

Michael Huhn · **Posted:** Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:41 pm

The ex-Gettsburg F7s are #s 1000 and 1001, currently in the Morgan Run deadline. I have read on a message board that OC will fix these two up for the NRHS convention, but that's not been fully confirmed.