Alexander,

Thanks for the update on the Washington DC engine. Wes Barris noted that it was gone, but we did not know it was scrapped.

I am a member of the Park Trains mailing list; I need to ask there about Knoebels Grove #99 as well.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

> I have received an (unreliable) report that
> the 0-4-0T #99 which was on display at
> Knoebels Grove in Elysburg, PA has been
> scrapped. However, I do not trust the
> individual in question to know precisely
> where it was/is. It was truly in horrendous
> shape, missing the saddletank, nothing more
> than a piece of playground equipment like
> the tanker at the Kennedy Playground in DC
> was before its scrapping.

> Although the possibility exists that it was
> moved to another location in the park and/or
> rehabilitated, I would wager that it's
> gone--and not a tragic loss, really. I know
> we have at least one or two amusement park
> authorities from the Mid-Atlantic who
> frequent this list--any word, guys?


Surviving World Steam Locomotives
james1@pernet.net

> Thank you very much. There is a picture of
> this engine while at the Knoxville Zoo at:

>
> http://www.trainweb.org/parktrains/gallery/index.html

> (Scroll down to the Sandley section.)

> Don Ross has a great page on the Sandley
> Light Equipment works at:

> http://donross.railspot.com/dr010.htm

> He states that #128 (the one that was at the
> Knoxville Zoo) "is now in pieces in the
> garage of one of the members of the R&GN
> Preservation Society." Is that the
> owner who died?

> -James Hefner
> Hebrews 10:20a

No. The engine in Wakarusa is #98. It was only in Knoxville for a few years after running at the World's Fair. The owner that died was Delton Schrock.

Home Page
timsb@goshen.edu

Just goes to show that we REALLY need an updated edition of J. David's "bible". How 'bout it, Dave? A project for all that extra free time?

Alexander,

> Thanks for the update on the Washington DC
> engine. Wes Barris noted that it was gone,
> but we did not know it was scrapped.

> I am a member of the Park Trains mailing
> list; I need to ask there about Knoebels
> Grove #99 as well.

> -James Hefner
> Hebrews 10:20a


Kevinmccabe@avenew.com

> 4. Leigh Valley Coal 0-4-0T #99, LVC 1924,
> on display at Knoebels Grove, Elysburg, PA

I'm pretty sure this locomtoive is still there, I saw it there last summer. it is in pretty rough shape. It sits over by the anthracite display.

B.S.


LNE512@aol.com

Hello

Was just at Knobels Grove in mid September. The 99 was moved from its long time perch near the entrance over to an "Anthracite" museum area within the park. Its still in just about the worst shape an engine can be. No saddle tank, cab coming detached from the frame, and of course it does have replica "cow catcher" on the front.

It is on display with other equipment including a sub surface miner "transport" vehicle and other equipment.

The crown 4-4-0 from the early sixties continues to run as does the group of immaculate gas powered Allan Herschelle/Miniature Train Co equipment.

Dave Crosby



bing@epix.net

> I seem to recall reading third hand reports
> that the CN 0-6-0, as well as Bras D' Or
> Coal 2-6-0 No. 17 (at the Cape Breton Island
> Miners Museum in Glace Bay) were both cut up
> for scrap in the 1980s. Can anyone verify
> this?

No. Ex-CN 7260 still survives. I can't tell you about #17.


robsterne@hotmail.com

> No. Ex-CN 7260 still survives. I can't tell
> you about #17.

By any chance, would that locomotive be related to Strasburg Railroad's 31, ex Candian National 7310?

jtjjtb@aol.com

> I'm pretty sure this locomtoive is still
> there, I saw it there last summer. it is in
> pretty rough shape. It sits over by the
> anthracite display.

> B.S.

I'll second that, although the last time I was at Knoebel's was about a year and a half ago. It has sat out in front of the anthracite museum for about as long as I can remember. Anybody know where this locomotive originally worked?

-Erich

> By any chance, would that locomotive be
> related to Strasburg Railroad's 31, ex
> Candian National 7310?

No it is not 7260 built by CLC 1906 for CGR

7312 (not 7310) built by Baldwin 1908 for GTR

different specs.



http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains
oldtimetrains@rrmail.com

I didn't see the 0-6-0 when I was in Glace Bay, but I do know for a fact that the other locomotive, #17, was cut up after being designated as "an eyesore". The Miner's Museum sits right on the Atlantic shore, and the locomotive had deteriorated terribly in the salt air. Despite attempts to repaint itand make it presentable, locals continuously complained about it. Instead of moving it to another location, and there are several railway museums that wanted it in the immediate region, the first choice was also the simplest and the engine was destroyed.

glueck@saturn.caps.maine.edu

Anybody know where this locomotive
originally worked?

It originally worked at Lehigh Valley Coal.

LNE512@aol.com

> Anybody know where this locomotive
> originally worked?

> It originally worked at Lehigh Valley Coal.

Yes, I realize this from the previous threads posted. But where was Lehigh Valley Coal located? (And don't say in the Lehigh Valley, Brandon!!)

No worries. It is a common error, but coal was never mined in the Lehigh Valley, it being to the east of the antracite fields (not by much).

Lehigh Valley coal had operations in the middle and upper anthracite fileds, most noteably in the Hazelton, PA area.

Rob Davis

> Yes, I realize this from the previous
> threads posted. But where was Lehigh Valley
> Coal located? (And don't say in the Lehigh
> Valley, Brandon!!)


Inlinebob@aol.com

Thank you very much to all who have responded to date.

This two were not listed in the Directory, but on Wes Barris' list, and on another list I recieved (and am currently working on.)

First is a narrow gauge 0-4-0T at Norton Abrasives, Athol, MA. It is agreed that it is gone, but no-one knows where it went. Does anyone know? Was it scrapped?

Another is a 0-4-0T, ex Cheshire RR, that used to be at B&M Shops & Museum, Keene, NH. Also, who built it, when, and construction number.

This update should bring up to date nearly all of the entries in the Steam Directory, plus add a few more.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

Surviving World Steam Locomotives
james1@pernet.net

The 0-4-0T at Keene was 30-inch gauge, originally Raritan Copper Works 11, later Anaconda 11, at Perth Amboy, NJ. Sold to Edaville in 1950s. Was displayed briefly (late 1980s) at the former Cheshire roundhouse and shops at Keene, NH after that site became a shopping outlet. Saw it recently on some website, apparently it is now back at Edaville. Saddletank was removed when sent to Keene. Porter 6976, built 5/1925.

Thank you very much to all who have
> responded to date.

> This two were not listed in the Directory,
> but on Wes Barris' list, and on another list
> I recieved (and am currently working on.)

> First is a narrow gauge 0-4-0T at Norton
> Abrasives, Athol, MA. It is agreed that it
> is gone, but no-one knows where it went.
> Does anyone know? Was it scrapped?

> Another is a 0-4-0T, ex Cheshire RR, that
> used to be at B&M Shops & Museum,
> Keene, NH. Also, who built it, when, and
> construction number.

> This update should bring up to date nearly
> all of the entries in the Steam Directory,
> plus add a few more.

> -James Hefner
> Hebrews 10:20a


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