Greetings, everyone;

I'm currently working through a list of engines I recieved for "Surviving World Steam Locomotives".

The following were listed at the locations given in Mr. Conrad's esteemed work. However, I THINK they are all no longer on location.

My question is, does anyone know where they went? They are:

1. Harris Tannery 0-4-0 #1, ALCO 56165, formerly at TVRM
2. Jones & Laughlin Steel 0-4-0T #57 (yes, the little but VERY heavy engines), Porter, at Crown Metal Products, Elizabeth, PA
3. Jones & Laughlin Steel 0-4-0T #61, Porter 8147, at Crown Metal Products
4. Leigh Valley Coal 0-4-0T #99, LVC 1924, on display at Knoebels Grove, Elysburg, PA
5. Tennessee Coal, Iron & RR 2-4-0 #110, Porter 7567, at Dollywood, Pigeon Forge, PA
6. Ohio Power 0-4-0F #5, Porter 7275, at Windsor Station, Power, WV
7. The two engines listed at Tibbets Paint Co., Trenton, NS, Canada.
8. The Sandley Light engine at the Knoxville Zoo, Knoxville, TN.
9. The Alaska-Juneau Gold 0-4-0 (geared), Risdon Iron Works, Risdon Iron Works, upside down in Silver Queen Mine, Thane (outside Juneau) Alaska. (I believe the Alaska Transport Museum owns this locomotive, but have they attempted to extract it?)

There may be some others, but these come to mind as I look the list over.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

Surviving World Steam Locomotives
james1@pernet.net

> 7. The two engines listed at Tibbets Paint
> Co., Trenton, NS, Canada.

0-4-0 ST #151 and 0-6-0 #7260 both left Tibbets Paint in 1991, and are now at the Museum of Industry in Stellarton, Nova Scotia.


robsterne@hotmail.com

The Sandly light engine from the Knoxville Zoo was originally built for the Hoot Toot-N-Whistle in Elgin Illinois. It was last used at the Old Wakarusa Railroad in Wakarusa, Indiana. I was one of the engineers there for several years. The owner died last May, and the train and restaurant that it ran at are up for sale.

I have pictures and video of this engine on my home page in the park trains section.

> Greetings, everyone;

> I'm currently working through a list of
> engines I recieved for "Surviving World
> Steam Locomotives".

> The following were listed at the locations
> given in Mr. Conrad's esteemed work.
> However, I THINK they are all no longer on
> location.

> My question is, does anyone know where they
> went? They are:

> 8. The Sandley Light engine at the Knoxville
> Zoo, Knoxville, TN.


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timsb@goshen.edu

> 0-4-0 ST #151 and 0-6-0 #7260 both left
> Tibbets Paint in 1991, and are now at the
> Museum of Industry in Stellarton, Nova
> Scotia.

Dave Conrad's book lists 0-4-0T #151 as being at Tibbetts Paint but lists the other engine as also being an 0-4-0T (#5). You state that the other engine is 0-6-0 #7260. Can you (or somebody else) clarify this please? Thanks!


midlandblb@cs.com

> Dave Conrad's book lists 0-4-0T #151 as
> being at Tibbetts Paint but lists the other
> engine as also being an 0-4-0T (#5). You
> state that the other engine is 0-6-0 #7260.
> Can you (or somebody else) clarify this
> please?

You and I are both right. I was referring to the Canadian Trackside guide which also lists an 0-6-0 which was originally a Canadian National engine before becoming the property of Tibbetts Paint. #5 is also listed which I missed the first time. It is also currently at the Museum of Industry. Sorry for the confusion.



robsterne@hotmail.com

> You and I are both right. I was referring to
> the Canadian Trackside guide which also
> lists an 0-6-0 which was originally a
> Canadian National engine before becoming the
> property of Tibbetts Paint. #5 is also
> listed which I missed the first time. It is
> also currently at the Museum of Industry.
> Sorry for the confusion.

Rob: Thanks! And thanks also for explaining that the 0-6-0 was a former CN locomotive.

Les

midlandblb@cs.com

I seem to recall reading third hand reports that the CN 0-6-0, as well as Bras D' Or Coal 2-6-0 No. 17 (at the Cape Breton Island Miners Museum in Glace Bay) were both cut up for scrap in the 1980s. Can anyone verify this?


bobyar2001@yahoo.com

> My question is, does anyone know where they
> went? They are:

> 1. Harris Tannery 0-4-0 #1, ALCO 56165,
> formerly at TVRM

John Coniglio's "Steam in the Valley" (an excellent book) lists 0-4-0T Cooke no. 56165 as scrapped at TVRM in 1980.


AMaples@aol.com

Hmmm... Lehigh Valley Coal 0-4-0T #99, LVC 1924, huh?

I thought I had a grip on all the known (read not buried in clum) anthracite lokies.

Is #99 the second engine at the Ashland, PA pioneer coal tunnel?

Rob

Inlinebob@aol.com

Dear James:
I believe that the Lehigh Valley Coal Co. 0-4-0T No. 99 is still on display near the entrance to the Knoebels Grove amusment park at Elysburg, PA. My recollection is that it is missing its saddletank.
The J&L 0-4-0T Nos.57 and 58 were sold to Robert Michel at Campbellford, ON. They were possibly resold. He also bought the former ALCO Products
0-4-0T No.2 which was also at Crown Metal Products with the J&L locos.
I have no current info on the 0-4-0F at Power, WV. I have never seen the locomotive myself, just reports and would really like to know if it still exists.
Thanks,
J. David

> > The J&L 0-4-0T Nos.57 and 58 were sold
> to Robert Michel at Campbellford, ON. They
> were possibly resold. He also bought the
> former ALCO Products
> 0-4-0T No.2 which was also at Crown Metal
> Products with the J&L locos.
>

All 3 still at Campbellford, saw them a couple of months ago. He wants to sell the two J&L engines. All very rusty, tourist RR stillborn.

Ugliest steam engines I EVER saw!


http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains
oldtimetrains@rrmail.com

Thank you very much. There is a picture of this engine while at the Knoxville Zoo at:

http://www.trainweb.org/parktrains/gallery/index.html

(Scroll down to the Sandley section.)

Don Ross has a great page on the Sandley Light Equipment works at:

http://donross.railspot.com/dr010.htm

He states that #128 (the one that was at the Knoxville Zoo) "is now in pieces in the garage of one of the members of the R&GN Preservation Society." Is that the owner who died?

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a



Surviving World Steam Locomotives
james1@pernet.net

> Hmmm... Lehigh Valley Coal 0-4-0T #99, LVC
> 1924, huh?

> I thought I had a grip on all the known
> (read not buried in clum) anthracite lokies.

Hi Rob; dare I ask if there is an update on former Glen Alden Coal #8, that was buried, was not buried, was there, was not there, but definitely was in bad shape at Wanamie?

(Mr. Conrad, I believe this engine was the Vulcan Iron Works engine you had listed under "Unknown" in your Directory. There seems to be a great deal of debate as to it's existance and condition, but I have been sent pictures of it derelict next to a culm pile at Wanamie, and believe based on a dent on the edge of the cab roof and other research that it was #8 at Wanamie. The Wanamie coal mine is currently being cleaned up, and the engine may have been scrapped.)

I believe there was a brief here already about another engine found recently in a culm pile.

> Is #99 the second engine at the Ashland, PA
> pioneer coal tunnel?

No, #1 at Ashland is Leigh Valley Coal #123, Vulcan Iron Works 3824 of 1927. The operational engine, #2, is former Guadiano Bros., Vulcan Iron Works #3642 of 1926.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

Surviving World Steam Locomotives
james1@pernet.net

Thank you very much, Mr. Conrad, and thank you for your monumental work.

I THINK I have an update on one of the engines you listed as scrapped, it is not QUITE gone. There is the remains of a Porter 0-6-0 at the Agrirama in Tifton, GA. I believe it is (ex. US Army?) #98, H.K. Porter 7464, which you have listed as scrapped in GA.

Instead of being scrapped, it was hacked up as part of a diesel conversion. The conversion was never completed, leaving it as ugly hulk that is now painted *pink*. The Agrirama was trying to find a home for it last year.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

> Dear James:
> I believe that the Lehigh Valley Coal Co.
> 0-4-0T No. 99 is still on display near the
> entrance to the Knoebels Grove amusment park
> at Elysburg, PA. My recollection is that it
> is missing its saddletank.
> The J&L 0-4-0T Nos.57 and 58 were sold
> to Robert Michel at Campbellford, ON. They
> were possibly resold. He also bought the
> former ALCO Products
> 0-4-0T No.2 which was also at Crown Metal
> Products with the J&L locos.
> I have no current info on the 0-4-0F at
> Power, WV. I have never seen the locomotive
> myself, just reports and would really like
> to know if it still exists.
> Thanks,
> J. David


Surviving World Steam Locomotives
james1@pernet.net

I have received an (unreliable) report that the 0-4-0T #99 which was on display at Knoebels Grove in Elysburg, PA has been scrapped. However, I do not trust the individual in question to know precisely where it was/is. It was truly in horrendous shape, missing the saddletank, nothing more than a piece of playground equipment like the tanker at the Kennedy Playground in DC was before its scrapping.

Although the possibility exists that it was moved to another location in the park and/or rehabilitated, I would wager that it's gone--and not a tragic loss, really. I know we have at least one or two amusement park authorities from the Mid-Atlantic who frequent this list--any word, guys?

lner4472@bcpl.net