It's not really been mentioned in this debate that RRMPA already has one GG1, #4935, displayed in Brunswick/5-stripe paint. A contrasting paint scheme on #4800, such as the Bicentennial, might be more interesting to museum visitors, and I don't think 5 stripe/tuscan, would be enough of a difference. Maybe 1-stripe tuscan with the bigger keystones (did #4800 wear these colors?)

That's what I getting at Dave. To me, I think the non-railfan would get more out of seeing Old Rivets in a Bicentennial scheme, rather then PRR which the museum has enough of already. Even if it is a prototype. In its most basic form- its colorful eye candy, more colorful then any black or dark green. Even placed outside if would be a great attention getter.

Joshua

Ahem.

Some of us lived through the Seventies. I don't know why you young whippersnappers insist on resurrecting them.

Bad hair, bad clothes, bad music. And REALLY bad GG1 paint schemes.

What's next, ABBA and the Chessie Steam Special?

Stop the madness!

;)

JAC

JAC---

Hey, wait a minute!! Just what was so bad about Franklyn Carr's rolling color chart, the CSS? Or, is that when you started doing those backlit glint shots, to disguise the yellow/blue/gray/vermillion T-1?

To borrow (and paraphrase) from another 70s phenomenon (Saturday Night Live's Garrett Morris), "The 70s were berry berry good to me!"

Hi,
I visited Wilmington on my way back from Harrisburg to Atlanta in 1974 after visiting family for Thanksgiving.
I have 13 photos of the three GG1's there awaiting disposition. 4878 and 4874 were therre in black and 4880 was at the end of the line with one pan missing, a single gold stripe and the message "The queen is dead, long live the queen" chalked on her side. The photo of 4880 is still on the Yahoo PRRCatenaryElectrics group site. If desired, I am willing to post the other 12 photos there.
Doug

I actually proposed repainting 2101 back into Chessie when it was announced that 2101 might be repainted soon earlier John.

Meow. :)

Joshua

If bringing back the seventies will find me once again riding behing 2101 climbing Sandpatch and Seventeen Mile grades on back to back days in the pouring rain with the booster cut in and no diesels in sight then I say bring them on. Paint, what is paint? Who cares what color it is when the T-1 sounds like that!

John Bohon

John

As another 50 something geezer, the seventies were lots of fun, and I rode behind more steam in those years than I have in the succeeding 30 years. Trips included multiple rides behind SR4501 including several cab rides, UP8444, CN6060, and an unforgettable ride from Gainesville, GA to Alexandria behind SP4449 in Bicentennial Paint!!! I also rode the Chessie Steam Special with my fiancee, who is still married to me after almost 30 years.

Those were the days my friend!!
Kevin

Ahem...............

Doug..........

Don't you mean 1984?????

Trust me, I know........... if you would like, the "guilty" party is willing to submit handwriting samples to compare with the graffiti in question..........

"If So............. Farewell To Thy Greatness!!!"

Yes, fat fingers strike again. It was 1984.

What I can remember of the '70s they were good to me too. Maybe the fact that I can't remember it all means they were excellent? For a white dude I looked pretty good in a dashiki, too.......but I didn't have the full bodied hair necessary to have a fro like Howard.

Not that I'd want to do it all over again, but I wish i had the stamina to try.

dave

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For a white dude I looked pretty good in a dashiki, too.......but I didn't have the full bodied hair necessary to have a fro like Howard.

Not that I'd want to do it all over again, but I wish i had the stamina to try.

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Come to think of it, I got my first kilt in the 70's, and thirty years later the lassies still admire me in it. Oh well, somebody has to be a sex symbol.

And yes the MODERATOR in me tells me I'm getting off topic, but I'm having a lot of fun doing it.

OK, let's get the tower (Hunter? Lane? WA-5?) to line 'em up and get back on topic...

Why not color outside the usual conservative lines a bit, and go with the 1976 bicen paint on 4800? There are plenty of Gs in various PRR schemes (any PC units?), so 4800 doesn't have to "represent" the PRR; many bicen locos have long since been repainted, so having one on display at a well-attended museum like RMPa would be a good way to show that particular part of rail history. Yes, colorful and with an unusual story to tell--- first G, only riveted G, bicen scheme, CR blue, too-- sounds like an interesting exhibit to me , and likely would be to the average visitor. And good press-release material, too.

Oh, and by the way, no 'fro on me back in the day-- a "Jerry Garcia" full beard for a while, yes, but no 'fro.

HP
PC, NY

I've got some pretty good memories from the 70's also. The "Crescent" with 4 green E8's, the Southern Steam Program with "Uncle Jim" and "The Boss" running things, my first British sports car, working at the old "Roanoke Transportation Museum" (and studying for Roanoke College classes in the cab of 611), first love......... the list goes on. On 4800, my 2 cents worth is preserve it in the Bicentennial scheme. The only other Bicentennial unit that I'm aware of in a museum is N&W 1776 in Roanoke.

Howard -

I believe that the GG1 at the National New York Central Museum in Elkhart, Indiana is painted for the Penn Central. I guess it has to be; how could you otherwise justify having a PRR unit at a NYC Museum?

Les