Al Chione Slides

Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:27 am

Continuing from the "Slide Scanner Recommendations" thread:

I recently acquired 120 Al Chione slides of GN and CB&Q passenger cars, which I will be scanning and uploading to RR Picture Archives over the next several days. These 120 slides were part of a much larger set, which originally came with a description sheet detailing when and where the slides were taken.

My understanding is that Al Chione created several such sets of these slides, so if anyone here has one of these description sheets, that would help to identify the locations and dates for the slides I purchased. Thanks in advance!

Besides that, if anyone here can identify the locations where these slides were taken, any and all info would be helpful. Thanks in advance!

I've scanned and uploaded the first 20 GN slides, the first 4 of which are included here:

Photo #1: GN 48 seat leg rest chair #1218 (P-S, 1950, Mid-Century Empire Builder):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070811

Photo #2: GN buffet parlor lounge observation #1195 Port of Seattle (AC&F, 1950, International):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070812

Photo #3: GN 4DB-1C-6RM sleeper lounge observation #1190 Choteau Coulee (ex-Mississippi River, P-S, 1947, 1947/1955 Empire Builder):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070813

Photo #4: GN 48 seat leg rest chair #1121 (P-S, 1947, 1947 Empire Builder/1951 Western Star):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070814

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ctjacks · **Posted:** Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:13 pm

Was the 1218 in the first photo purchased by the State of N.J. for commuter service? If so, I think I can ID the location.

And did the cars in the other 3 slides operate on Amtrak in the early days?

robertjohndavis · **Joined:** Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:10 am **Posts:** 2398

ctjacks wrote:

Was the 1218 in the first photo purchased by the State of N.J. for commuter service? If so, I think I can ID the location.

And did the cars in the other 3 slides operate on Amtrak in the early days?

The World Trade Center is a clue :-)

Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:53 pm

ctjacks wrote:

Was the 1218 in the first photo purchased by the State of N.J. for commuter service? If so, I think I can ID the location.

And did the cars in the other 3 slides operate on Amtrak in the early days?

Yes, the #1218 (and the #1121 in photo #4) were purchased by New Jersey in 1973 and assigned to the CNJ.

#1218 to NJDOT-CNJ #109 to NJT #5316 to DLWX #5316, stored in St. Paul, MN.

#1121 to NJDOT-CNJ #134 to NJT #5306, now owned by the Cotton Belt RHS-Arkansas RR Museum as the #1947 Apple Blossom.

Photo 2: #1195 Port of Seattle was sold in 1971 to Amtrak as #3770, retired and sold in 1977 to International Hospitality Management, later to Keystone Country Furniture in Aspers, PA.

Photo 3: #1190 Choteau Coulee (ex-Mississippi River) was rebuilt in 1967 to 68 seat coach #1300 to BN #6801 (not applied) sold in 1971 to Amtrak #6801, retired and sold in 1977 to Boquet Movie Ranch.

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Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:42 am

Photo #4 of 48 seat chair #1121 was taken in Denver; the old 20th Street viaduct is in the background.

More Photos:

Photo #5: GN 48 seat leg rest chair #1224 (P-S, 1950, Mid-Century Empire Builder):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070815

Photo #6: GN 6RM-5DB-2C sleeper #1374 Park Creek Pass (P-S, 1950, Mid-Century Empire Builder):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070816

Photo #7: GN 46 seat leg rest dome chair #1323 (Budd, 1955 Empire Builder):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070817

Photo #8: GN 56 seat chair #1072 (ex-SLSF #1253 Clayton, P-S, 1947):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070818

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HudsonL · **Joined:** Mon May 24, 2010 10:22 am **Posts:** 481

"Photo 2: #1195 Port of Seattle was sold in 1971 to Amtrak as #3770, retired and sold in 1977 to International Hospitality Management, later to Keystone Country Furniture in Aspers, PA."

Burned circa 2006.

-Hudson

Alexander D. Mitchell IV · **Posted:** Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:26 pm

HudsonL wrote:

"Photo 2: #1195 Port of Seattle was sold in 1971 to Amtrak as #3770, retired and sold in 1977 to International Hospitality Management, later to Keystone Country Furniture in Aspers, PA."

Burned circa 2006.

Supposedly sold to the Minnesota Transportation Museum or affiliated agents July 2004, but arsoned 11-11-2005.

From earlier post at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35609&p=203766 :

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GN #1195 "Port of Seattle" to Amtrak #3770. Retired and sold to Keystone Country Furniture in Aspers, PA. The Minnesota Transportation Museum had shown interest in acquiring the #1195, and a purchasing agreement was reached with the private owner who had purchased the car after Keystone Furniture had gone out of business. The car was still located in the back of the old Keystone property when it was set ablaze on November 11th, 2005. The purchase of the car by MTM became enveloped in a court case, the outcome of which I have no information on. To my knowledge, the fire-damaged #1195 is still located in Aspers, not having moved an inch.

I'm looking on Google Satellite View where the car was supposed to be, and I'm not finding it. Is it, indeed, tragically history?

Fortunately, a couple sisters survive: http://www.greatnorthernempire.net/inde ... vation.htm

ctjacks · **Posted:** Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:41 pm

Slide #1, and probably also slide #5, were taken in Elizabethport, NJ at the CNJ shops. Slide #8 was taken in Minneapolis, just south of the old depot, as far as I can tell.

Weren't Chione's slides mostly taken on the east coast? That is why I ask about Amtrak service. Possibly slide 2 was taken in Altoona? Slide 3 is probably somewhere in western Minnesota.

I will guess slide 4 is of a fantrip, due to the heads out the vestibules. Possibly in Eola (Aurora), IL?

Chris.

Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:26 pm

ctjacks wrote:

Slide #1, and probably also slide #5, were taken in Elizabethport, NJ at the CNJ shops. Slide #8 was taken in Minneapolis, just south of the old depot, as far as I can tell.

I will guess slide 4 is of a fantrip, due to the heads out the vestibules. Possibly in Eola (Aurora), IL?

Thanks, Chris, for the info!

Photo #4 was taken in Denver, as the old 20th Street viaduct is in the background. This is one of several slides taken in Denver at or near Union Station.

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Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:37 am

More Photos:

Photo #9: GN streamlined heavyweight 62 seat chair #955 (B&S, 1914), same location as photo #2:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070819

Photo #10: GN streamlined heavyweight buffet lounge parlor #1085 (2nd) (ex-#1073 [1st], nee-PULL David C. Shepard, Lot #6249, 1929, rebuilt to #1085 in 1954 for the Seattle-Portland Pool, now BNSF sleeper lounge #60 Stevens Pass [3rd]):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070820

Photo #11: GN steam generator #13:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070821

Photo #12: GN storage mail express boxcar #2617:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070822

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Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:05 pm

More Photos:

Photo #13: GN steam generator #1 (StLCC, 1928) at Skykomish, WA:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070823

Photo #14: GN 30' RPO-baggage-express #91 (ex-#819, AC&F, 1913):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070824

Photo #15: GN baggage-coach in MofW service as #X182 (full history unknown):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070825

Photo #16: GN baggage #260 (2nd) (ex-#235, nee-#16, B&S, 1914):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070826

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Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:38 am

More Photos:

Photo #17: GN modernized heavyweight 78 seat coach #952 (B&S, 1914):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070827

Photo #18: GN 30' RPO-baggage-express #83 (ex-#811, AC&F, 1913):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070828

Photo #19: GN Ranch Car #1244 White Pines Lake (AC&F, 1951, Mid-Century Empire Builder):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070829

Photo #20: GN 8DXR-4S-3DB-1C sleeper #1264 Bad Axe River (P-S, 1950, Mid-Century Empire Builder) at Denver:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4070830

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HudsonL · **Joined:** Mon May 24, 2010 10:22 am **Posts:** 481

Photo #17: GN modernized heavyweight 78 seat coach #952 (B&S, 1914)

I am thinking Two Harbors, MN on a DMIR fantrip.

-Hudson

Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:18 pm

Rainier Rails wrote:

Photo #17: GN modernized heavyweight 78 seat coach #952 (B&S, 1914)

HudsonL wrote:

I am thinking Two Harbors, MN on a DMIR fantrip.

Thanks, Hudson!

More Photos:

Photo #21: GN buffet (galley) 44 seat chair #945 (P-S, 1937/52, 1937 Empire Builder/1952 Gopher-Badger) in St. Paul:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4071433

Photo #22: GN 16DXR-4DB sleeper #1174 Many Glacier (P-S, 1947 Empire Builder/1951 Western Star):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4071434

Photo #23: GN 8DXR-4S-4DB sleeper #1164 Logan Pass (P-S, 1947 Empire Builder/1951 Western Star):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4071435

Photo #24: GN 48 seat leg rest chair #1127 (P-S, 1947 Empire Builder/1951 Western Star) at Denver:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4071436

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Rainier Rails · **Posted:** Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:58 pm

More Photos:

Photo #25: GN 12S-1DR sleeper #1018 Heart Research, leased to the University of Minnesota, note that the interior has been modified with 3 of the section windows blanked out (ex-Premier Rose, nee-PULL Red Granite, Lot #4894, Plan #3410A, 1925):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4071437

Photo #26: GN steam generator #3 (StLCC, 1928):

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4071438

Photo #27: GN 48 seat leg rest chair #1135 (ex-SP&S #350 [1st], P-S, 1950, 1951 Western Star) at Elizabethport, NJ:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4071439

Photo #28: GN 16DXR-4DB sleeper #1182 Agassiz Glacier (P-S, 1950, 1951 Western Star) at St. Paul:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4071440

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