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 Post subject: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:24 pm 

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Just wondering how many P&R wooden coaches are still around, the RCT&HS's website has some promising leads but I have no first hand information and some of the items are somewhat out of date. Two particular cars I'd like to know about are at Connecticut trolley museum and part of an antiques store in Dushore PA, according to the list of surviving equipment.

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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:41 pm 

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Three Phila. & Reading wooden coaches are at the Strasburg Rail Road. P&R #1089, now No. 58 the Huber Leath; P&R #1055, now No. 92, the Susquehanna; and P&R #1319, now No. 65, the Walnut Hollow. All are in regular service. Info. from the Strasburg Rail Road 2013 roster available on the Internet.


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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:33 pm 

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Hi Guys

I believe there is an ex P&R coach that was one time on the Black River & Western, later sold to the Yankee Silversmith Inn, at Wallingford, CT. It has since moved to the Connecticut Eastern Railroad Museum. See:


http://wallingfordwired.com/2008/yankee ... z3V4cxq8Fr

I think there is another P&R wooden car or two in various museums in New England, via the Boston & Maine. Hope this is of help, David Notarius, Wimblington UK- ex New Hope PA


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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:57 pm 

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Thanks, David for the information on the car in Wallingford! I had wondered what happened to it and am glad to hear it's gone to a good home at the Connecticut Eastern RR Museum. The coach and restaurant used to be visible from the Wilbur Cross Parkway and I enjoyed seeing it every time I drove by. (What's odd, though, is that I was living just a few miles away in New Haven at the time of the fire and subsequent move, and yet I recall hearing nothing about it at the time. One day I went past and it was just gone, and I had feared the worst.)

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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:29 am 

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The ex-P&R wooden coach at Dushore, Sullivan County, Pa., was owned by George M. Hart (formerly the RDG Erie Avenue, Phila., wreck train bunk car No. 90882 class PAMX; bought by Hart on January 23, 1965 and became Rail Tours No. 26) and is now owned (per Hart's will) by Dr. Thomas Shoemaker, editor of The Sullivan Review, the local weekly newspaper. Shoemaker has used it as an antiques store in recent years. It was built by Harlan & Hollingsworth c.1910 as a P&R 1000-series day coach.The car was delivered there by the Lehigh Valley in June 1971 right before the State Line & Sullivan br. got washed out by 1972 floods. Hart used to stay overnight in the car on trips to Dushore, as he owned property on nearby Dutch Mountain in Lopez, where his mother used to spend her summers due to ill health.

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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:17 pm 

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philip.marshall wrote:
Thanks, David for the information on the car in Wallingford! I had wondered what happened to it and am glad to hear it's gone to a good home at the Connecticut Eastern RR Museum. The coach and restaurant used to be visible from the Wilbur Cross Parkway and I enjoyed seeing it every time I drove by. (What's odd, though, is that I was living just a few miles away in New Haven at the time of the fire and subsequent move, and yet I recall hearing nothing about it at the time. One day I went past and it was just gone, and I had feared the worst.)

This is good news. Bill Burkhart and I had gone up to look at it some years back, but we couldn't make the numbers work ... Glad to hear about CERRM.

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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:09 pm 

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I received this from Grady Smith, who is very active in a leadership role at the MSRR&LA at Cass WV:

Mark,
On RYPN there is a thread about P&R wooden passenger cars. I think at Cass, on the very dead line up the river beyond Leatherbark Creek, that there is such a creature, in a bad state, as you can imagine. At least there is a car up there with two-axle pass. car trucks with P&R cast into them. Might you post this on the site?

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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:16 pm 

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I know about that one, I Emailed Cass about it. It's a Harlan and Hollingsworth combine car from the 1880's that was bought by the Buffalo Creek and Gauley and numbered X-15. When the director sent back he said they just purchased BC&G 2-8-0 #4 and planned to, in the long run, restore them both.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:39 pm 

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The P&R combine, ex-BC&G in Cass, has the number 499 leafed in gold above the south facing door. For the record keepers out there...


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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:29 am 

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The car at the Connecticut Trolley museum, IIRC is on the lead track to Barn #1. According to the museum, it is Philadelphia & Reading #940. It has been sided over and the roof was tar papered and is not under a tarp. She is in rough shape. I believe all the fittings for her seats,etc. are in the car but again, in rough shape.

She was originally restored to be pulled behind the Climax that was at the museum, when she was in service. Again, IIRC the packing dates on her journals go back to the 80's.

Chris Chestnut would be able to provide more detailed information, and he is a frequent visitor on the forums.

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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:37 pm 

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wasn't there one or two in the Rail Tours collection at Mauch Chunk? Whatever became of it/those?

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 Post subject: Re: Philadelphia & Reading Wooden Coaches
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:23 pm 

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That's what the RCT&HS's website says. After that though there is no disposition, as I previously said it's just a bit out of date. (sarcasm) Take a look for yourself. http://www.readingrailroad.org/survivin ... quip.shtml Are there any first hand sources that can set this straight?

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