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 Post subject: 5-1/2" Superheater Flues?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:54 pm 

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 Post subject: Re: 5-1/2" Superheater Flues?
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:51 am 

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Kelly,

Does Anderson Tube not handle this size?

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 Post subject: Re: 5-1/2" Superheater Flues?
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 12:03 pm 

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hadder wrote:
Kelly,

Does Anderson Tube not handle this size?

Eric


According to AT's website, they carry 5.50" SA-178 tube. I think Kelly is after a certain gauge thickness that has become scarce. His complaint was the available thicker gauge tube heat absorption rate would cause issues with the fluesheets bowing and/or star cracking from unequal expansion/contraction with lighter gauge 2" tubes. Might be wrong, but that's what I recall.

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 Post subject: Re: 5-1/2" Superheater Flues?
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:43 pm 

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But why 8 or 9 gauge with the problems that can come with using a thicker wall tube? Have you checked the mills, not the fabricators, to see if they are currently running 5.5?


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 Post subject: Re: 5-1/2" Superheater Flues?
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 1:05 pm 

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Kelly,
I didn't take into consideration the engineering behind increased thickness and OD of the tube. Nope, use 3.5" flues so 10 is just fine.


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 Post subject: Re: 5-1/2" Superheater Flues?
PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:28 pm 

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While on the subject of tubes - we are looking for a source for 10 ea. #SA-178-A 1.50" OD X .135 WASL, 20 ft lengths for repair of super heater assemblies.

A local supplier indicated they had a source, but due to a substitution and bad communications, when they arrived they were only .065 wall.

We are back to looking for a source. Any suggestions?


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 5:10 pm 

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[quote="Dick_Morris"]While on the subject of tubes - we are looking for a source for 10 ea. #SA-178-A 1.50" OD X .135 WASL, 20 ft lengths for repair of super heater assemblies.

shows on the floor.

https://www.metroboilertube.com/inventory.html


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:08 pm 

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Bobk - Thanks, we sent them a note.


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 Post subject: Re: 5-1/2" Superheater Flues?
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:02 am 

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Dick_Morris wrote:
While on the subject of tubes - we are looking for a source for 10 ea. #SA-178-A 1.50" OD X .135 WASL, 20 ft lengths for repair of super heater assemblies.

A local supplier indicated they had a source, but due to a substitution and bad communications, when they arrived they were only .065 wall.

We are back to looking for a source. Any suggestions?


Superheater units are generally made of ASME SA-106 grade Gr. B or C compared to SA-178A which is typically used for flues and tubes. The ERW seam may promote corrosion of the units prematurely compared to the seamless SA-106 grade. You may have better luck with availability as well. Food for thought anyway.

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