PA4 "NKP 190" Moving East to Scranton

Bobharbison · **Joined:** Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:42 pm **Posts:** 3010

PaulWWoodring wrote:

Anybody have any idea of possible routing through Ohio? I'm guessing it has to come this way.

I have not a clue, but I would love to see somebody get a photo of it passing through Conneaut! That would be a very nice gesture for all the work that Doyle McCormack has put into her over the years. Conneaut was his home town and where he saw the NKP as a kid.

jayrod · **Posted:** Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:13 pm

How it gets there will depend on routing and if any part of the route was specified. It’s gonna go from terminal to terminal until it hits the one that has a local or a string of locals to its destination. Sometimes it makes no logical sense. One of our members shipped a car in from the PNW with the BNSF interchange to NS specified as KC. It went from there to Madison, IL, up through Cleveland, down the old C&P to Conway, PA. Then backtracked east on the Ft. Wayne line to Canton, OH, then to Orrville.

MRLX1020 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:22 pm **Posts:** 70

jayrod wrote:

How it gets there will depend on routing and if any part of the route was specified. It’s gonna go from terminal to terminal until it hits the one that has a local or a string of locals to its destination. Sometimes it makes no logical sense. One of our members shipped a car in from the PNW with the BNSF interchange to NS specified as KC. It went from there to Madison, IL, up through Cleveland, down the old C&P to Conway, PA. Then backtracked east on the Ft. Wayne line to Canton, OH, then to Orrville.

Matt's coach took a very similar route to what the PA is planned - BNSF (lengthy delays in Wyoming and Nebraska) to NS at Kansas City, MO. It missed Madison, IL, but went straight across to Decatur, IL from KCMO, and then on to Conway, PA - through Bellevue and Alliance, OH. The move to Orrville wasn't much of a backtrack, but NS can't access that part of the PRR from the west (Thanks CF&E).

Locomotives seem to move much more rapidly than coaches because they are on the head end, and power seems to stay on trains longer these days.

MRLX1020

PMC · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2875

https://www.facebook.com/gvtrailco/post ... XA6CwcjSGl "PA-4 NKP/DL 190 is eastbound on train H-PASKCK 9 25. The engine left Pasco at 2:31 on Wednesday 4/26 and is on it’s way to Kansas City via Sandpoint ID and Missoula MT. Lead unit is ironically one of the few remaining GE’s wearing BNSF warbonnet livery, chosen to honor the history of the Santa Fe. The PA was delivered to the AT&SF in a similar scheme many years ago.
This update is for informational purposes only. Please refrain from entering railroad property during this historic journey. Safety first!
Photos by Charlie Newton for GVT Rail, all rights reserved." Photo posted 17 hours ago (around 7pm Pacific time).

PMC · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2875

https://www.facebook.com/gvtrailco/post ... PNy7YSjmkl
"Big Sky Country!
Helena, MT
NKP/DL190 making more progress across the country heading east to Scranton, PA.
H-PASKCK 92 5
Photos by Charlie Newton for GVT Rail, all rights reserved.
This update is for informational purposes only. Please refrain from entering railroad property during this historic journey. Safety first!" Posted 3 hours ago.

PMC · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2875

https://www.facebook.com/gvtrailco/vide ... 317584382/
"From yesterday, NKP/DL190 crosses the bridge in Townsend, MT on the MRL one hour out from Helena, MT.
The journey of the H-PASKCK9-25 continues on.
Video by Charlie Newton for GVT Rail, all rights reserved.
This update is for informational purposes only. Please refrain from entering railroad property during this historic journey. Safety first!
#pacomeshome"
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Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Mon May 01, 2023 8:51 am

One of the more rewarding aspects, at least to me, is how the PA is moving at speed, tracking beautifully. It would appear that all is right in the ALCO PA world at this time.

PMC · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2875

https://www.facebook.com/gvtrailco/vide ... 990530686/
"Genesee Valley Transportation Co., Inc.
3h ·
Another trip update as NKP/DL190 will pass through St. Joseph, MO, Waldron and KC, MO today with a stop arrival to KC, KS later tonight at approximately 830-10pm local time. Thank you to all who have been sending pictures and videos of this historic journey!
This video is from Othello, WA, by Charlie Newton for GVT Rail, all rights reserved.
This update is for informational purposes only. Please refrain from entering railroad property during this historic journey. Safety first!"

Previously, posted eight hours ago, nice close up:
https://www.facebook.com/gvtrailco/vide ... 974288132/

"Genesee Valley Transportation Co., Inc.
·
The trip east continues, as shown here passing through Decker, WY. Will continue on through NE and MO today and onward to KC on the H-PASKCK9-25.
Video by Charie Newton, all rights reserved.
This update is for informational purposes only. Please refrain from entering railroad property during this historic journey. Safety first!
#pacomeshome"

PMC · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2875

https://www.facebook.com/gvtrailco/post ... V1rCmXWsFl

"Genesee Valley Transportation Co., Inc.
3h
We thank you Argentine yard. NKP/DL190 is rolling once again and en route to Chicago via H-KCKBRC1-04.
Below are some photos properly credited in the captions.
This update is for informational purposes only. Please refrain from entering railroad property during this historic journey. Safety first! Photo by James Girkin"

So it looks like it is taking the ex-AT&SF to Chicago, and a hotshot at that.

o484 · **Posted:** Fri May 05, 2023 5:59 am

I get the feeling that pairing her with a warbonnet for this move was intentional.

PaulWWoodring · **Posted:** Fri May 05, 2023 6:59 am

Probably not wrong about the choice of lead power, but my guess is that doing so was not an order from "on-high". It probably was done by a local supervisor who is also a fan. I've seen it done other places. When I was at CSX in Baltimore, one of the Terminal Train Masters liked to put together consists with consecutively numbered units when they were in town at the same time.

Overmod · **Joined:** Thu May 24, 2012 1:37 pm **Posts:** 2492

I think Mr. Woodring is right. After UP acquired SP, you'd see SP-painted power leading consists for many years in east Arkansas. That was remarkably notable during the time 3985 went north through Poplar Bluff in 2004.

The last four EL F units were maintained, and dispatched, as an ABBA set, and delightful it was to see them.

NJDixon · **Joined:** Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:36 pm **Posts:** 363

Similarly, I have a suspicion that UP 6076, the ex-CNW AC44W still in CNW paint, dodged the paint shop for almost thirty years due to employee intervention. Every couple years you would hear that it was going to be repainted, and then it'd pop up again still in the old paint.

Gham55* · **Joined:** Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:56 am **Posts:** 86

NJDixon wrote:

Similarly, I have a suspicion that UP 6076, the ex-CNW AC44W still in CNW paint, dodged the paint shop for almost thirty years due to employee intervention. Every couple years you would hear that it was going to be repainted, and then it'd pop up again still in the old paint.

Merely a set of completely unrelated, totally random coincidences.

Don C. · **Posted:** Fri May 05, 2023 2:29 pm

It is sitting at Plano, IL, on the old CB&Q west of Aurora as of 1230pm CDT, on a HKCKBRC that is tied down awaiting a crew. It has been there since early this morning (Friday, May 5). Seeing how it was repatriated from Mexico, should it be celebrating Cinco de Mayo today?