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 Post subject: 14-EL brake stand documentation
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:15 am 

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Is there any documentation for the 14-EL brake stand available online? I'm looking for something similar to the Wabtec O&I publications, which have exploded drawings. I did a Google search and came with nothing; more truck air brake info than locomotive.

Also helpful would be a listing of part numbers, and especially the gaskets. I have been led to believe that gaskets for that brake stand and pipe bracket are no longer readily available. Has anyone else run into an issue there?

Thanks in advance-


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 Post subject: Re: 14-EL brake stand documentation
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:42 pm 

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There are 2 14-EL brake books on ebay right now, 20 and 25 each, that is where I purchased mine.

I did make a failed effort to convert it to digital. And now I can't find my 14-EL book lol.

Multi-service supply out of Texas had all the gaskets a few years ago. I think they are all basically flat rubber cut gaskets except they have ribs stamped in for extra sealing.


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 Post subject: Re: 14-EL brake stand documentation
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:55 pm 

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Here you go. It's on my Google Drive, so I'm only going to leave it here a few days....
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 Post subject: Re: 14-EL brake stand documentation
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:25 pm 

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The quick replies are appreciated, but not exactly what I am looking for. I have a 1945 14-EL book, and the link above is for a slightly newer version of that book. I'm really interested in exploded views, and part numbers for any renewable parts and gaskets. I do have them for the 6-NR and many other portions of the 14 system as well as others, 26-C for example. Perhaps Westinghouse didn't share that information as publicly as the Wabtec O&Is that I have scans of? And I am glad to hear that the gaskets may not be that big an issue; just need the numbers.


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 Post subject: Re: 14-EL brake stand documentation
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:55 pm 

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EDM wrote:
Is there any documentation for the 14-EL brake stand available online? I'm looking for something similar to the Wabtec O&I publications, which have exploded drawings. I did a Google search and came with nothing; more truck air brake info than locomotive.

Also helpful would be a listing of part numbers, and especially the gaskets. I have been led to believe that gaskets for that brake stand and pipe bracket are no longer readily available. Has anyone else run into an issue there?

Thanks in advance-


There were no exploded drawings for that older stuff. The parts catalogs are traditional 2-D drawings with views and sections as needed to illustrate where the parts are.

The brake stands are called K-14. The following are the gasket parts numbers:

21368 Auto Upper gasket
28823 Auto Middle gasket
12303 Auto Lower (pb) gasket
15307 Ind upper gasket
28467 Ind lower gasket

Also, here is some gasket info for the #6, 6E, and 6K (and 14) distributing valves:
70630 App cyl cover gasket
80043 Equalizing Cyl cap gasket
94649 Application valve cover gasket (blanking cover gasket on 6K)
58013 Distributing valve gasket to reservoir face

94648 Application valve bush gasket (6K only)
511407 Application valve seal (6K)
511401 Application valve seat (6K)
517043 Pilot valve seal (6K)

Strasburg and Multiservice might be able to sell you small quantities. Most of these gaskets are still active numbers at WABTEC since these parts were so ubiquitous on diesel switchers.


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 Post subject: Re: 14-EL brake stand documentation
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:39 pm 

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Thank you, JeffH! Now I understand why I couldn't find any exploded drawings, but those gasket numbers are very helpful.


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 Post subject: Re: 14-EL brake stand documentation
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:33 pm 

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It sounds like you have the info you need, but if you want more info WABCO parts catalog 3208-4 has exploded views of the K14 and L14 valves. PM me with an email and I can forward photos of it to you.

Eric


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 Post subject: Re: 14-EL brake stand documentation
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:33 pm 

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EWrice wrote:
It sounds like you have the info you need, but if you want more info WABCO parts catalog 3208-4 has exploded views of the K14 and L14 valves. PM me with an email and I can forward photos of it to you.

Eric


You can upload photos directly here. Use the "upload attachment" area right below the posting box.

What is the date on the catalog? I'd like to see this "exploded" view. All of the catalogs I have seen are from the 1940s or earlier, and are drawin as classic 2D projections and sections.


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